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Farmlands
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« on: August 20, 2021, 06:25:23 PM »

I get no feeling the Democrats even want an infrastructure bill passed, let alone any of that other stuff that's meant to be passed in reconciliation. Remember that a big dig was always a Trump (not even a GOP, just Trump) priority that Biden ran with.

Would be pretty odd to have a bill passed in the Senate by all 50 democrats, in the very first months of the Biden presidency, if they didn't really care one way or the other about it. In any case, this whole spat seems more like a disagreement on timing than anything substantial, though I agree more with the moderates here.
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Farmlands
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« Reply #1 on: September 30, 2021, 06:06:37 PM »

I would vote Yes if I were in the House - this may be all we ever get. But Sinema's treachery should never be forgotten or forgiven.

This is a great accomplishment for the Biden administration. He finally gets a big package deal passed long in the works, so I don't know what's with all the gloom and doom. In fact, Sinema mentioned today using reconciliation to pass healthcare reform, if I'm not mistaken, so things are looking up.
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Farmlands
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« Reply #2 on: October 22, 2021, 01:22:03 PM »
« Edited: October 22, 2021, 01:25:32 PM by Farmlands »

I feel like the apparent failure to pass the Build Back Better plan is kind of similar to Trump's failure to repeal Obamacare in 2017. Both were more or less signature promises POTUS wanted to done in the 1st year, but a narrow senate majority prevents it from happening. Both cause severe outrage at the base and leaves POTUS with declining approval ratings.

Only difference is that Obamacare repeal failed due to the GOP's lack of a real alternative (something they have failed to come up with ever since the ACA was passed) while BBB only fails due to 2 stubborn senators with an out of time and out of touch mindset.
What are you talking about?

The Build Back Better plan is on track to pass by Halloween

It will be a 2 trillion dollar investment in the safety net, largest since the Great Society. Passing it will be a huge success, not failure.

Paid leave, Medicaid expansion, Obamacare subsidiese, pre-k, child care

These are all popular with the base unlike Obamacare repeal. Even Republicans were wary of fulling repealing it, knowing thousands of stupid republicans actually get health insurance through Obamacare

Recent days more sounded like Manchin and Sinema don't care whether anything passes. I still consider it a disappointment to water everything down. 3.5 trillion was already a compromise and this proposals doesn't include more climate investments urgently needed.

Significant climate investments are not happening.  Accept that.

Yup, it will for sure come back to haunt us. At this stage Europe and the PRC will compete for the world's global green power of the 21st century and America is pretty much out of the race. Hopefully states and the private sector can get more done.

The transition to green energy has been occurring at great speed for the past two decades, under Republicans and Democrats alike, and it's not suddenly stopping, regardless of what the climate provisions of this bill are. It's missing the big picture.
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Farmlands
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« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2021, 06:39:07 PM »

This is f**king exhausting.

Either pass both bills or pass neither, those are the two acceptable options. But for f**k's sake let this charade end.

I mean, I really don't think that would be acceptable by Democrats at all. This is something they've spent the last eight months debating, and it would be a pretty big setback for the American people and the Biden administration, because they're both good bills.
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Farmlands
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« Reply #4 on: April 25, 2022, 01:11:02 PM »



I'm going to become the joker

The man clearly knows what his constituents like. Too bad for him, West Virginia is so red by now that no political stunt of his will still save his reelection now.
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