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lfromnj
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« on: November 27, 2020, 01:25:46 PM »

The Cleveland-Pittsburgh difference is interesting.

The main differences seem to be:

Pittsburgh is a much whiter metro than Cleveland

Pittsburgh is Appalachian, Cleveland is Great Lakes/Yankee

Cleveland probably has a less working class white population in the metro, has some "liberal elite" or Main Line-esque type suburbs like Shaker Heights and Pepper Pike that I don't think Pittsburgh really has the equivalent of.

I don't think that "latte liberals" are totally inexistent in the Pittsburgh metro. I think the main difference is TEH COAL... there is nothing like Westmoreland or Washington counties (which are not exactly tiny counties) near Cleveland.

The Pittsburgh metro is an incredibly diverse metro at least on a class scale that has been incredibly stable. Until 2020 most Democrats this century have only gone a 15% margin out of Alleghany county due to counter trends.

https://rrhelections.com/index.php/2020/04/21/pennsylvanias-17th-congressional-district-a-sociocultural-and-political-analysis/

This is one of the best round ups on the different groups inside the metro besides Pittsburgh itself. A lot of populist small town areas but also a lot of super rich areas. And these areas are merely a few miles apart .
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« Reply #1 on: December 01, 2020, 11:24:59 PM »

Talking about the metro though.  The city of Pittsburgh is more affluent/college-educated than the city of Cleveland but it's what 15% of the MSA?  It quickly gives way to coal country.


You have to include the inner burbs too, which brings it closer to 40% of the MSA. Places like Penn Hills and Mount Lebanon definitely are more "Main Line-esque" than anything in Cleveland,

Idk isn't that basically the demographic in a lot of inner-line West side burbs of Cleveland?

Penn Hills seems more like Shaker Heights in Cleveland?
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