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lfromnj
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« on: July 22, 2020, 12:57:30 AM »
« edited: July 22, 2020, 01:14:29 AM by lfromnj »

So, apparently there's no thread for this yet, anyways I put together two maps, which are probably the likeliest maps, a commission map, given UT has a commission, and a GOP gerrymander, if the GOP manages to strip the commission of its power or just chooses to ignore it, etc.

Commission map: https://davesredistricting.org/join/9035300e-a97a-4239-9cb7-82000b763bc7

GOP gerrymander: https://davesredistricting.org/join/9f8d6101-f019-45cd-a128-a284f8576808

In the commission map, Democrats get a safe D SLC seat, while the GOP gerrymander would split SLC into oblivion. That seat seems to be the main point of contention, given all of the other seats would be safely Republican given how blood red the state is outside of SLC. I don't expect there to be much discussion about this state, but given there are two competing proposals, I felt that it warrants a thread where we can discuss the proposals.
There's no reason to do such a hideous gerrymander all you have to do is to put the entire city of Salt Lake City with the rest of Eastern Utah and you get 4 safe Republican districts. It looks nice to: https://davesredistricting.org/join/c455fee4-371f-4340-b9a7-aee14b480070

Uh what?
the current Utah 4th is Trump +7 you just created a Trump +2 and Trump +5 district.

The Trump +5 is pretty similar to the current Utah 4th and that already flipped D.

The Trump +2 isn't really trending D as much and it probably is a bit safer for the GOP despite the narrower Trump margin due to primary dynamics but it could still flip.
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« Reply #1 on: October 25, 2021, 09:45:30 PM »

Really 2 options the commision had here. Either just draw the SLC D district and don't give any legitimacy to the Utah GOP or the other option was to draw an even swingier Utah 4th and hope the Utah GOP takes them up on it if it still leans R.
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« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2021, 11:27:40 PM »



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« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2021, 08:39:20 PM »
« Edited: November 06, 2021, 08:55:45 PM by lfromnj »

I am generally pretty realistic when it comes to redistricting, when given the chance both sides will gerrymander to their hearts content, but gutting a citizen referendum to split Salt Lake county 4  ways is probably the low for this redistricting cycle.

Maybe I'm just more jaded, but it doesn't surprise me at all. I figured this entire thing was DOA either via full repeal years ago, which didn't happen, or by eventually ignoring it, which did.

Republicans declared a "legislative emergency" in South Dakota just to repeal the 2016 anti-corruption initiative. Missouri Republicans packed a repeal of the redistricting reform with a near-useless provisions lowering lobbyist/campaign contribution limits, when the previous amendment already lowered them significantly so mislead what the amendment was really about.

Redistricting is the one area that brings out the absolute worst in parties. You'll never see partisan lawmakers become more cutthroat than the start of a new decade. Very few exceptions, the latest probably being Virginia's reform amendment, a rare moment of ethical concern (albeit in favor of a badly designed amendment) in a situation rife with self-interest and partisan concerns.

The Missouri Amendment merely prevented Nicole Galloway from gerrymandering the legislative districts. The original amendment came through the same means with Democrats( or "non partisan" groups like the AFL- CIO)pushing it as campaign finance reform but the main goal being to gerrymander the districts. Missouri Republicans merely fought back against it.
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« Reply #4 on: November 10, 2021, 01:51:01 PM »

Map passes in the senate with one Republican dissenter. 6 total legislative republicans seem to have a conscience.

Where are they from?

It could just be not a particular care for SLC but rather the rural areas.
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« Reply #5 on: November 12, 2021, 07:54:17 PM »

The Utah GOP is a meme. They do this the same day they bow to BLM pressure to rename Dixie state university.
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