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lfromnj
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« on: July 27, 2019, 11:16:19 AM »
« edited: July 27, 2019, 11:24:09 AM by Lfromnj stands with Sanchez. »

Technically without incumbency gerrymandering A clean Baltimore+parts of Baltimore county district would have a below average household median income.  However about 250k people in Howard county are in the district and the median household income there is 110k. So this is like looking at that super rich labor district that flipped because half of it is super rich but the other half is super poor like Greenwich.


Although Crime is hilariously overrated and generally a boogeyman and I doubt its rat infested and all that sh**t. But the city of Baltimore isn't great overall with horrible education results with some schools literally having 0% of students proficient in math.Even in the poorest rural areas in this country you atleast get a few proficient people. And no one give me the BS excuse of funding issues. Baltimore is literally one of the most overfunded districts in the country.
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« Reply #1 on: July 27, 2019, 01:10:52 PM »
« Edited: July 27, 2019, 01:31:22 PM by Lfromnj stands with Sanchez. »



Not that I would take away the SNAP benefits, as people there need them. (I would take sugary sodas off the list of eligible items; I would give everyone on SNAP a cookbook; I would replace sodas with detergents as items of eligibility).

What is wrong with Trump country?


Yeah not gonna deny its just as ed up lol with regards to poverty.

But even with all that poverty.

https://www.usnews.com/education/best-high-schools/kentucky/districts/owsley-county/owsley-county-high-school-8396

It still has half the people proficient in math/reading.   I would much rather be brought up here than Baltimore Maryland because atleast there is a decent chance of getting out of the vicious cycle of poverty Baltimore creates.

https://www.usnews.com/education/best-high-schools/maryland/districts/baltimore-city-public-schools/patterson-high-9017

Meanwhile a school in inner city Baltimore.

I do understand the Kentucky test districts probably have a slightly lower standard but overall there is no legitimate excuse to explain why these two schools are so different with regard to school performance. Even when comparing nationalized standardized tests  with ACT to SAT and using a convertor the Owsley county students have a score about 100 higher. What resources do these students have that inner city Baltimore students don't?
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« Reply #2 on: July 27, 2019, 04:14:44 PM »

Yes, we know Maryland is gerrymandered. Shows how far left this site has become that this thread with a fraudulent title is permitted whereas real news about our assertiveness against the despicable Swedes is removed.

What is true is that Baltimore is a complete tragedy and shares much more in common with places like St. Louis and Detroit than any Atlantic City.
Incorrect. Baltimore is gentrifying and, as a result, gaining population on the net, albeit slightly. The same thing can not be said about the other aforementioned cities. And while, yes, we have our issues, they are being solved.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baltimore

Quick search it has decreased by 3 percent this decade. It's possible it has completely stagnated now.
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« Reply #3 on: July 27, 2019, 04:45:51 PM »

The issue here is not Baltimore itself. It’s that Cummings represents a suburban upper class district but Trump assumes because he’s black he has to represent some ghetto district
I mean I assumed Cummings represented Baltimore and then I forgot Maryland Democrats gerrymandered his district.
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« Reply #4 on: July 27, 2019, 09:46:43 PM »
« Edited: July 27, 2019, 09:51:53 PM by Lfromnj stands with Sanchez. »

It's easier to get out of a vicious cycle of poverty in rural Kentucky than in Baltimore because of the systematic white supremacy that's the root of the issue in the first place. Those kids in Kentucky probably have access to old boy networks and other needed resources that alot of inner city kids in Baltimore don't have which need to addressed via destroying America's racial caste system via reparations (both in land and wealth). Wouldn't put too much stock in the SAT/ACT due to it's origins.

That network of unemployment, black lung, and opioid addiction sure is great!

Look I dislike rural areas for leaching off the country but lol at saying these people have good connections to anything but meth. The only significant advantage they have is maybe most of them have fathers. I will admit growing up in a 2 family household is probably a significant advantage but there are just as many disadvantages.
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« Reply #5 on: July 28, 2019, 05:28:29 PM »

The issue here is not Baltimore itself. It’s that Cummings represents a suburban upper class district but Trump assumes because he’s black he has to represent some ghetto district

Who represents "some ghetto district" in baltimore then?
West Baltimore in 2019 is not Warsaw in 1941, and to compare the two is ludicrous. Yes, parts of Baltimore are struggling and have been ignored by politicians on both sides of the aisle (including Governor Hogan, a Republican). That is indisputable and sad, and needs to change immediately. A number of my friends and acquaintances are West Baltimore born and raised, and seeing the President of the United States talk sh*t about them over twitter while also not doing anything to help people like them is also sad and needs to change immediately.

Of course, you could just be using "ghetto" as a synonym for "majority-black," which would be problematic as hell.

Also, Rep. Cummings represents Columbia, MD, which is usually on those "best places to live in America" lists. It was also purposefully designed as a racially integrated neighborhood in the 1960's, so that's cool.

Also also, the President is casting value judgements about several hundred thousand Americans. If he doesn't like America, he's free to leave!


What did Hogan specifically do?

What I mainly found is that he refused to send more money to Baltimore schools without a corruption investigation.
FYI Baltimore schools are some of the best funded in the country. He was right to refuse more funds to these schools as its clear that just burning money is not an effective way to improve Baltimore schools.
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« Reply #6 on: July 28, 2019, 08:02:06 PM »
« Edited: July 28, 2019, 08:17:34 PM by Lfromnj stands with Sanchez. »

The issue here is not Baltimore itself. It’s that Cummings represents a suburban upper class district but Trump assumes because he’s black he has to represent some ghetto district

Who represents "some ghetto district" in baltimore then?
West Baltimore in 2019 is not Warsaw in 1941, and to compare the two is ludicrous. Yes, parts of Baltimore are struggling and have been ignored by politicians on both sides of the aisle (including Governor Hogan, a Republican). That is indisputable and sad, and needs to change immediately. A number of my friends and acquaintances are West Baltimore born and raised, and seeing the President of the United States talk sh*t about them over twitter while also not doing anything to help people like them is also sad and needs to change immediately.

Of course, you could just be using "ghetto" as a synonym for "majority-black," which would be problematic as hell.

Also, Rep. Cummings represents Columbia, MD, which is usually on those "best places to live in America" lists. It was also purposefully designed as a racially integrated neighborhood in the 1960's, so that's cool.

Also also, the President is casting value judgements about several hundred thousand Americans. If he doesn't like America, he's free to leave!


What did Hogan specifically do?

What I mainly found is that he refused to send more money to Baltimore schools without a corruption investigation.
FYI Baltimore schools are some of the best funded in the country. He was right to refuse more funds to these schools as its clear that just burning money is not an effective way to improve Baltimore schools.
He not only didn't give Baltimore more money for schools, he cut the budget by $42 million.

Out of like 1.3 billion. It's still like the 2nd or 3rd highest in the state and like 3rd highest in the 100 largest school districts in the country. Hogan may not have stopped the Baltimore school problem but he atleast prevented wasting taxpayers money through a blackhole.
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« Reply #7 on: July 28, 2019, 08:19:39 PM »

I love Philadelphia, but I can also be angry that the streets smell like urine and most neighborhoods are cockroach infested wastelands where I feel the need to dash through after 1 or 2 AM and many other problems I would prefer not to have here. European colleagues visit and tell me it's embarrassing that the cities are in such disarray. I have no means of comparison, but I do think living conditions are clearly suboptimal.

I was there in late September during a heatwave. Smelled fine. Didn't see roaches, felt safe at night. 'I DON'T FEEL SAFE IN THE CITY' is such a weird Americanism and even worse when MAGAmedia try and tell Europeans that we shouldn't feel safe in cities from London to Malmo that you've never even visited.

This is absurd to compare a short tourist or business visit to someone who actually lived there. Use stats to disprove his argument, not your anecdotal evidence as a tourist. Also FWIW heatwaves actually bring down crime.
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« Reply #8 on: July 29, 2019, 04:18:47 PM »

The issue here is not Baltimore itself. It’s that Cummings represents a suburban upper class district but Trump assumes because he’s black he has to represent some ghetto district

Who represents "some ghetto district" in baltimore then?
West Baltimore in 2019 is not Warsaw in 1941, and to compare the two is ludicrous. Yes, parts of Baltimore are struggling and have been ignored by politicians on both sides of the aisle (including Governor Hogan, a Republican). That is indisputable and sad, and needs to change immediately. A number of my friends and acquaintances are West Baltimore born and raised, and seeing the President of the United States talk sh*t about them over twitter while also not doing anything to help people like them is also sad and needs to change immediately.

Of course, you could just be using "ghetto" as a synonym for "majority-black," which would be problematic as hell.

Also, Rep. Cummings represents Columbia, MD, which is usually on those "best places to live in America" lists. It was also purposefully designed as a racially integrated neighborhood in the 1960's, so that's cool.

Also also, the President is casting value judgements about several hundred thousand Americans. If he doesn't like America, he's free to leave!

1. Baltimore is a dangerous city
2. Yes, both parties suck. That isn't the topic of discussion here
3. Well the district has massive poverty and borderline 3rd world living conditions
4. No, i used your words and asked you a question about "ghetto district"
5. Cummings represents the district with the lowest median income in Baltimore. It's also mostly black.
6. Politicians cast value judgments about Americans all the time

1. Never said it wasn’t
2. Alright
3a. I have been to west Baltimore. I have also been to fishing villages in the Dominican Republic, for instance, which would be considered the “third world” by some. I would choose to live in West Baltimore 112% of the time if those were my two options. Despite what Bernie may say, Baltimore is not remotely comparable to a third world country. I have a feeling you’ve never been to either Baltimore nor a third world country.
3b. Last I checked, the poverty rate for MD-07 was about 12%. That’s not “massive” poverty.
4. Not my words. I jumped in the conversation because I saw two people discussing my hometown as being comparable to the places Nazis forced the Jews to live in Eastern Europe.
5. You’re right that it’s almost 60% black, but median income in MD-07 is almost $61,000, which is above the national median income. I can’t find data on median income for just the Baltimore portion of the district, though.
6. Yes they do. When republicans imply that poor people like some of the people whom Cummings represents are of a lower intrinsic worth than people who aren’t poor, people defend the Republicans, while if Democrats even do so little as to criticize the obviously deeply flawed American healthcare system, they HATE AMERICA and should “go back to where they came from.”

See guys all we have to do to fix Baltimores problems when someone calls it bad is to attach it to the 3rd wealthiest county in the country. Baltimores median income FYI is 25000 although it could be different within that part of the city itself. Also is that 61k for median household or median by individual.
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