9/15/2023 check-in: How do you think the Ukrainian invasion ends up?

[BigSerg]

I seriously wonder who are the 9 people with severe cognitive impairment who think that Ukraine will regain Crimea and liberate all its former territories.

[BigSerg]

I seriously wonder who are the 9 people with severe cognitive impairment who think that Ukraine will regain Crimea and liberate all its former territories.

If we reach a point where Ukraine has already defeated Russia on the battlefield and retaken Luhansk and Donetsk, why would they not be expected to retake Crimea as well?  It's like if the Union crushed the confederacy but just decided to not recapture South Carolina for whatever reason.  What, because it was first?

Yes, you see, we will never get to that point. At that point you have to be totally detached from reality to think something like that.

[BigSerg]

I seriously wonder who are the 9 people with severe cognitive impairment who think that Ukraine will regain Crimea and liberate all its former territories.

If we reach a point where Ukraine has already defeated Russia on the battlefield and retaken Luhansk and Donetsk, why would they not be expected to retake Crimea as well?  It's like if the Union crushed the confederacy but just decided to not recapture South Carolina for whatever reason.  What, because it was first?

Yes, you see, we will never get to that point. At that point you have to be totally detached from reality to think something like that.

Detached from reality like this?

Even I know there will be no invasion tonight

No. It was supposed (according to Western propaganda) that today at 3:00 am in Ukraine the invasion would start... it didn't happen, nothingburger.  

There will be no Russian invasion. However, I fear a conflict in Ukraine, especially because of the nuclear power plants.... There would surely be sabotage actions and Chernobyl could suffer attacks, nobody knows if what hides all that sand is still active.

The only realistic scenario: Ukraine surrenders and accepts all Russian demands or is reduced to radioactive ashes.

Sir, stop making a fool of yourself. As it says there, the invasion did not start that day. And the second thing is still true lmao, Ukraine has no chance, its only way out is to accept Russian demands.

[BigSerg]

I seriously wonder who are the 9 people with severe cognitive impairment who think that Ukraine will regain Crimea and liberate all its former territories.

If we reach a point where Ukraine has already defeated Russia on the battlefield and retaken Luhansk and Donetsk, why would they not be expected to retake Crimea as well?  It's like if the Union crushed the confederacy but just decided to not recapture South Carolina for whatever reason.  What, because it was first?

Yes, you see, we will never get to that point. At that point you have to be totally detached from reality to think something like that.

Detached from reality like this?

Even I know there will be no invasion tonight

No. It was supposed (according to Western propaganda) that today at 3:00 am in Ukraine the invasion would start... it didn't happen, nothingburger.  

There will be no Russian invasion. However, I fear a conflict in Ukraine, especially because of the nuclear power plants.... There would surely be sabotage actions and Chernobyl could suffer attacks, nobody knows if what hides all that sand is still active.

The only realistic scenario: Ukraine surrenders and accepts all Russian demands or is reduced to radioactive ashes.

Sir, stop making a fool of yourself. As it says there, the invasion did not start that day. And the second thing is still true lmao, Ukraine has no chance, its only way out is to accept Russian demands.

You said on the 16th “there will be no invasion” but nice try 👍. Also trying to argue Ukraine has no chance after this past year of embarrassing an degrading your precious orc military to the point you’re begging NK for aid and your most effective fighting unit straight up mutinied on you makes it pretty clear who the fool is.

However, I fear a conflict in Ukraine, especially because of the nuclear power plants.... There would surely be sabotage actions and Chernobyl could suffer attacks, nobody knows if what hides all that sand is still active.

pretty clear who the fool is.

Yes, I think it's clear

[BigSerg]

I seriously wonder who are the 9 people with severe cognitive impairment who think that Ukraine will regain Crimea and liberate all its former territories.

If we reach a point where Ukraine has already defeated Russia on the battlefield and retaken Luhansk and Donetsk, why would they not be expected to retake Crimea as well?  It's like if the Union crushed the confederacy but just decided to not recapture South Carolina for whatever reason.  What, because it was first?

Yes, you see, we will never get to that point. At that point you have to be totally detached from reality to think something like that.

Detached from reality like this?

Even I know there will be no invasion tonight

No. It was supposed (according to Western propaganda) that today at 3:00 am in Ukraine the invasion would start... it didn't happen, nothingburger.  

There will be no Russian invasion. However, I fear a conflict in Ukraine, especially because of the nuclear power plants.... There would surely be sabotage actions and Chernobyl could suffer attacks, nobody knows if what hides all that sand is still active.

The only realistic scenario: Ukraine surrenders and accepts all Russian demands or is reduced to radioactive ashes.

Sir, stop making a fool of yourself. As it says there, the invasion did not start that day. And the second thing is still true lmao, Ukraine has no chance, its only way out is to accept Russian demands.

You said on the 16th “there will be no invasion” but nice try 👍. Also trying to argue Ukraine has no chance after this past year of embarrassing an degrading your precious orc military to the point you’re begging NK for aid and your most effective fighting unit straight up mutinied on you makes it pretty clear who the fool is.

However, I fear a conflict in Ukraine, especially because of the nuclear power plants.... There would surely be sabotage actions and Chernobyl could suffer attacks, nobody knows if what hides all that sand is still active.

pretty clear who the fool is.

Yes, I think it's clear

I get you’re a Z troll so bad faith comes to you naturally but we can all literally see the quote with the sentence you cut out of your highlight in which you openly state that there will be no invasion.

Here we go with the trolling. If you check the context, it is clear that I was referring to that day, in that same quote I leave open the possibility of conflict in the future. Does it amuse you to troll? Not to mention it was practically me who started the first threads about the situation when you all ignored it.

[BigSerg]

Last time I checked Ukraine was gaining territory back but at such a slow pace that it will take like 70 years to regain everything if they don't speed up.

Remember the maxim "gradually, then suddenly" though - lots of examples of it in wartime.

Not saying that you are wrong, simply that it is still too early to say.

That only happens when both sides can't afford any more attrition. Russia has not mobilized and that is a huge factor in the calculation. Ukraine has had a general mobilization for over a year, while Russia has only done a partial one. If you don't see the difference, I don't know what to tell you.

[BigSerg]

Last time I checked Ukraine was gaining territory back but at such a slow pace that it will take like 70 years to regain everything if they don't speed up.

Remember the maxim "gradually, then suddenly" though - lots of examples of it in wartime.

Not saying that you are wrong, simply that it is still too early to say.

Can you mention those examples? I am sure they will all be from two sides fully committed to war, war economics and general mobilization. The point is that in this conflict, only Ukraine has those characteristics. The Russian economy is still mostly civilian and they have had only partial mobilization in over a year of war.