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« on: September 03, 2008, 12:03:00 PM »

He probably had more responsibility being a big city community organizer and the president of the most prestigious legal volume in the world.

Can someone clearly explain what the heck is a community organizer?  No one on TV has been able to do so yet.

It's like running the PTA, but instead of getting parents riled up over drama club cutbacks, you get your neighbors riled up over incinerator permitting.
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« Reply #1 on: September 03, 2008, 12:07:32 PM »


Obama doesn't do any work in the Senate.  His staffers and interns do.
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« Reply #2 on: September 03, 2008, 12:11:02 PM »


You mean to suggest that Olbermann's responses to anything are entirely predictable?  Surely you jest.
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« Reply #3 on: September 03, 2008, 12:14:48 PM »
« Edited: September 03, 2008, 12:16:29 PM by Mr. Moderate, President »


Obama doesn't do any work in the Senate.  His staffers and interns do.
Which is why Ghostmonkey's little quip is ridiculous. No one in an executive position (or even in the role of Senator or something) does everything by themselves. Everyone has handlers, aids, staffers, appointees, etc. to help them out. Even the President. So if you want to downplay Obama's leadership role in running a national campaign nearly 365 days a year for the last 1 and a half years because he had help, then there aren't any politicians with leadership experience.

As ridiculous, of course, as glossing over Palin's time as governor of a state with ridiculous riders like "oh, it's not that big of a state."  The insistence on focusing on the fact that Palin was a "small-town mayor" is almost as ridiculous as writing off Obama as nothing but a community organizer.  Sure, he's done other stuff.  So has Palin.

I am not thrilled with the fact that Palin will have been Governor for only two years come inauguration day.  Still, it is laughable to say that you're unable to vote for McCain's ticket because of an inexperienced Vice President when the experience comparison on the top of the ticket is so incredibly lopsided in McCain's favor, which seems to be all-too-often what is being said by the Obama side.
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« Reply #4 on: September 03, 2008, 02:44:09 PM »

And, of course, George Bush's time as governor of Texas didn't matter, because Texas is a weak governorship.  Alaska's constitution is modeled after New Jersey's (how's that for a trivia question), meaning that they have a "strong" governorship.

Does it really matter how many people are in the state?  Not for those here and elsewhere who considered Gov. Schweitzer a strong candidate for the Vice Presidency.  (How much experience does he have, anyway?)

Alaska has a massive amount of oil wealth that must be managed and redistributed to state residents.  Contracts and deals must be made with foreign entities.

Though not especially populous, it has a tremendous amount of land area, creating challenges that are unique to Alaska.

Honestly, any type of executive experience should be seen as a plus, considering the lack there of with Obama, Biden, and McCain.
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« Reply #5 on: September 03, 2008, 03:35:03 PM »

We don't argue that you can't criticize Palin because she's a woman. I'm tired of hearing about how smart and fair you are when you use stuff like this.

The woman thing is the McCain campaign today and their surrogates. Carly Fiorina had a stupid comment about it. No one here is doing it, at least, no one's doing it that I've cared about.

Certainly Palin has been held to a double standard that would not be applied to a male.  Specifically, the charges that she is somehow neglecting her family and a down syndrome baby by trying to further her own career.  Because a woman should take care of the family first, hur hur hur.
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