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Mr.Phips
Junior Chimp
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« on: May 08, 2020, 05:31:12 PM »

There are many gerrymandered districts, but are there currently any that violate anti-racial gerrymandering laws?

I can think of three right now:  LA-02, AL-07, and SC-06.  All three districts needlessly pack African American voters into one district to keep the them from being able to elect a representative of their choice in at least one neighboring district.  All three of these states could easily have a second district where African Americans could elect a representative of their choice.
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Mr.Phips
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #1 on: May 08, 2020, 05:36:51 PM »

There are many gerrymandered districts, but are there currently any that violate anti-racial gerrymandering laws?

I can think of three right now:  LA-02, AL-07, and SC-06.  All three districts needlessly pack African American voters into one district to keep the them from being able to elect a representative of their choice in at least one neighboring district.  All three of these states could easily have a second district where African Americans could elect a representative of their choice.

LA02 IIRC it was all but impossible to draw a 2nd black seat in 2010 due to Katrina,
AL07 sure it makes sense to have one black belt seat based in Montgomery and the black belt and then one Birmingham seat, having 2 black seats with an arm to mobile is just as absurd as the current seat.

SC- Clyburn wanted a super safe black seat too and he asked the GOP for a 6-1(disgusting and should be primaried and I laugh at the fact Democrats wanted him) Its true the GOP would have done 6-1 anyway but any sane Democrat should atleast put up the appearance of a 5-2.


I had actually thought that Clyburn was pushing for a second black opportunity district?
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Mr.Phips
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #2 on: May 08, 2020, 05:46:32 PM »

No such districts exist as of right now. Unideal=/=illegal.

It could be argued that all three districts violate Section 2 of the VRA by limiting their opportunities to elect representatives of their choice.  In all three districts, a different line drawing could allow African Americans to elect additional representatives of their choice.
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Mr.Phips
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #3 on: May 08, 2020, 06:07:40 PM »

There are many gerrymandered districts, but are there currently any that violate anti-racial gerrymandering laws?

I can think of three right now:  LA-02, AL-07, and SC-06.  All three districts needlessly pack African American voters into one district to keep the them from being able to elect a representative of their choice in at least one neighboring district.  All three of these states could easily have a second district where African Americans could elect a representative of their choice.

LA02 IIRC it was all but impossible to draw a 2nd black seat in 2010 due to Katrina,
AL07 sure it makes sense to have one black belt seat based in Montgomery and the black belt and then one Birmingham seat, having 2 black seats with an arm to mobile is just as absurd as the current seat.

SC- Clyburn wanted a super safe black seat too and he asked the GOP for a 6-1(disgusting and should be primaried and I laugh at the fact Democrats wanted him) Its true the GOP would have done 6-1 anyway but any sane Democrat should atleast put up the appearance of a 5-2.


I had actually thought that Clyburn was pushing for a second black opportunity district?

https://talkelections.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=130462.msg2903899#msg2903899

Was reading this thread, the link is dead unfortunately

Clyburn is a fool.
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Mr.Phips
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #4 on: May 09, 2020, 11:03:27 AM »

I don't think AL-07 or MS-02 is necessarily a problem.  If 2011 VA-03 fell, 2011 LA-02 should obviously fall as well.  Is it possible to draw 2 majority-black CVAP districts in SC without linking distant metros like VA-03 or LA-02?  If so, SC-06 should also fall.

They don’t have to be majority, just have a high enough percentage of African Americans to elect a representative of their choice in both districts.  In S.C., you would have one district anchored in Charleston and another in the connecting Columbia and the PeeDee.  Both districts would have a Democratic performance in the high 50s and a black percentage in the high 40s.
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