End to Districts Amendment [Passed/Sent to Regions]

[minionofmidas]

So the idea is that the Senate has full freedom to change the rules under which Class B Senators are elected, making it possible to drop proportional representation again without needing yet another amendment?
Very good. I've always believed that a Constitution should only include the barest corset of rules for elections and that most of that belongs into ordinary law. Is there any support for amending this so that the regional Senators could also be abolished - at a later date, if the Senate so wishes. Say, if STV works so well that we decide we want it for the whole Senate - without further constitutional amendment?

[minionofmidas]

(in continuation of the debate in the pr bill thread)

How about this, Earl and Modrate?

Section 3 amended to read (...) and Class B, which shall comprise Senators elected by a form of proportional representation.

It's a very bad idea to put the entire pr mechanism into the constitution - we might decide we want some points changed, without exactly overhauling the entire system. This would give some guarantee that a major change back could not be passed by 7 people.
Peter's version, of course, would be a reasonable friendly amendment.

I'm not introducing either just yet... let's have a little more feedback here.

[minionofmidas]

I prefer my own, but am ready to introduce both of them:

Introducing, firstly, an amendment that Section 3 be amended to read (...) and Class B, which shall comprise Senators elected by a form of proportional representation.

Secondly, (irrespective of how the first vote goes) an amendment that Section 3 be amended to read "...Class B, which shall comprise Senators elected via proportional representation by means of single transferable vote."

Thirdly, and only if both previous amendments fail, an amendment (which may be recognized as a friendly amendment) that Section 3 be amended to read

...Class B, which shall be elected as the Senate shall specify in appropriate legislation."

[minionofmidas]

Aye

[minionofmidas]

Nay

[minionofmidas]

Nay.

Looking at Lewis's wording, it seems he will not introduce Peter's version since the other amendment passed. If he doesn't introduce it, then I'll introduce that one.

Well Peter's version is just a better-worded version of the original proposal... seems fairly pointless to reintroduce it now. Except for filibustering purposes, of course.

[minionofmidas]

Nay.

[minionofmidas]

Aye

[minionofmidas]

Aye