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minionofmidas
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« on: August 27, 2005, 09:28:47 AM »

Answer agree, neutral, or disagree to all questions. Then, read the second post in this thread and score it.

1. Should there be a general speed limit on freeways?

2. Should the laws that make firing employees more difficult be loosened?

3. Should we stick to the previously agreed deal on phasing out nuclear power?

4. Should taxes on petrol be lowered?

5. Should it be possible for Turkey to become a full member of the EU?

6. Should sales taxes be increased?

7. Should there be a minimum wage?

8. Should top earners be made to pay more in income tax?

9. Should the deposit on soft drink cans be abolished?

10. Should all citizens have to be members of the gesetzliche health insurance cooperatives? (Rather than the "private" health insurance companies - don't ask, it's rather complex.)

11. Should Germans living abroad pay taxes in Germany?

12. Should the EU agricultural subsidies be lowered?

13. Should the common European defense policy be expanded on?

14. Should there be continued subsidies for German anthracite coalmining?

15. Should it be made easier to use the German army internally?

16. Should MPs be forced to publish all their sources of income?

17. Should every child have to pass a language proficiency test before starting first grade?

18. Should there be no fees for universities (for the student's first degree)

19. Should education policy be the exclusive province of the states?

20. Should student grants be given independently of parents' income?

21. If you take a year off work after the birth of your child, should the government pay you a wage?

22. Should abortions during the first trimester without the currently mandatory counselling be legalized?

23. Should the DNS of all felons be collected and saved?

24. Should the draft be abolished?

25. Should there be more surveillance cameras in public places?

26. Should gay "marriages" be made equal to marriage in all legal respects?

27. Should the voting age for federal elections be lowered to 16?

28. Should biometrical data such as a fingerprint become part of the federal ID card?

29. Should cannabis be legalised?

30. Should there be referenda on the federal level?
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minionofmidas
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« Reply #1 on: August 27, 2005, 09:39:55 AM »
« Edited: August 27, 2005, 09:55:24 AM by Jealous, Manipulative and Very Sexual Lewis Trondheim »

C = CDU/CSU, F = FDP, G = Greens, L = Left, S = SPD
1 C oppose F oppose G neutral L agree S oppose
2 C agree F agree G oppose L oppose S oppose
3 C oppose F oppose G agree L agree S agree
4 C agree F agree G oppose L neutral S oppose
5 C oppose F agree G agree L agree S agree
6 C agree F oppose G oppose L oppose S oppose
7 C oppose F oppose G agree L agree S agree
8 C neutral G oppose G agree L agree S agree
9 C oppose F agree G oppose L oppose S oppose
10 C oppose F oppose G oppose L agree S agree
11 C agree F oppose G agree L oppose S oppose
12 C oppose F neutral G agree L neutral S agree
13 C agree F agree G agree L oppose S agree
14 C oppose F oppose G oppose L oppose S agree
15 C agree F oppose G oppose L oppose S oppose
16 C agree F oppose G agree L agree S agree
17 C neutral F agree G oppose L oppose S agree
18 C oppose F oppose G agree L agree S agree
19 C agree F oppose G oppose L oppose S oppose
20 C oppose F oppose G agree L agree S oppose
21 C neutral F oppose G oppose L agree S agree
22 C oppose F oppose G oppose L agree S neutral
23 C agree F oppose G oppose L oppose S neutral
24 C oppose F agree G agree L agree S neutral
25 C agree F neutral G oppose L oppose S oppose
26 C oppose F agree G agree L agree S agree
27 C oppose F oppose G agree L agree S oppose
28 C agree F neutral G oppose L oppose S agree
29 C oppose F oppose G agree L agree S oppose
30 C oppose F agree G agree L agree S agree

Compare your positions with each parties'. Two points to the party for every agreement. One point for every time they're off by one, ie either you are or the party is neutral.
Highest score wins.
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minionofmidas
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« Reply #2 on: August 27, 2005, 09:43:59 AM »

My score...
Left 48 (of 60)
Greens 47
SPD 43
FDP 29
CDU/CSU 15
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minionofmidas
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« Reply #3 on: August 27, 2005, 09:55:59 AM »

C = CDU/CSU, F = FDP, G = Greens, L = Left, S = SPD

3 C oppose F agree G oppose L oppose S oppose

Wait a minute, the FDP agrees on phasing out nuclear power, while all other (including Greens) oppose it?

Or did I miss something now?
That's not what I wrote. Prove I ever wrote that. Wink Tongue
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minionofmidas
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« Reply #4 on: August 27, 2005, 10:07:07 AM »

C = CDU/CSU, F = FDP, G = Greens, L = Left, S = SPD

3 C oppose F agree G oppose L oppose S oppose

Wait a minute, the FDP agrees on phasing out nuclear power, while all other (including Greens) oppose it?

Or did I miss something now?
That's not what I wrote. Prove I ever wrote that. Wink Tongue

Well, I quoted it, didnīt I? Cheesy
Quotes can be faked.
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minionofmidas
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« Reply #5 on: September 02, 2005, 03:30:48 AM »

Did I misread question 6, or is the CDU the only party opposed to tax cuts?
No, the CDU is the only party in favor of an increase in sales tax. Which is already far too high for my liking. (It's 7% on food and a couple of other items, 16% on everything else. They want to make it 7/18.)
Now I could get on a long rant how the worst thing the current government has done is lower taxes and how misleading that 8th question is, but I'll spare you that. Smiley
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minionofmidas
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« Reply #6 on: September 02, 2005, 08:57:44 AM »

Did I misread question 6, or is the CDU the only party opposed to tax cuts?
No, the CDU is the only party in favor of an increase in sales tax. Which is already far too high for my liking. (It's 7% on food and a couple of other items, 16% on everything else. They want to make it 7/18.)
What Lewis said. At least the only party before the election.
Not really, unless you're talking of the FDP, and even that's not something I'd bet money on. It's a very dumb idea - and one that's very unpopular outside the CDU. (Also, remember Claudia Nolte 1998?)
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minionofmidas
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« Reply #7 on: September 02, 2005, 02:29:30 PM »

oh wait a minute, it seems that ALL the parties want to raise taxes except for the FDP, at least based on question 8.
As I said, that's a question I'm REALLY unhappy with. Okay, so should I go on a rant how instead of lowering them and then noticing this was neithr an economically sound nor an all that popular idea, they should have let them be - or that, at the very least, the Wahlomat should give SPD & Greens an N and the CDU a D here?
No, I think it'll tire me too much. Smiley
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minionofmidas
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« Reply #8 on: September 03, 2005, 03:52:42 AM »

I'd like to see you take this test, Al. Smiley
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minionofmidas
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« Reply #9 on: September 03, 2005, 04:30:32 AM »

If I counted right (had to judge some of your answers, too), that's
SPD 44
Greens 38
FDP 34
Left 29
CDU 28
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minionofmidas
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« Reply #10 on: September 05, 2005, 02:02:15 AM »

I categorically deny that I'm a toff, and I daresay the administrative experience the former Communists have from running East Germany is far better than none at all.
Ah, but the only people left on the political scene with such experience are Hans Modrow (PDS) and Manfred Stolpe (SPD).
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minionofmidas
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« Reply #11 on: September 06, 2005, 05:16:35 AM »

Lewis, in Sweden the equivalent tax, if I understand correctly, is 25% (though various lower levels for restaurants, hotels and books).
Yeah, I know, they're very high in Scandinavia. Then again, they're pretty low in the US and suchlike countries... just goes to show a high tax burden does not equal a high amount of redistribution.
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minionofmidas
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« Reply #12 on: September 07, 2005, 02:41:48 AM »

DemoHawk, I didn't check below, but you forgot a point for the Greens on the very first question.
Here's Goldie:
CDU 41 - FDP 41 - SPD 29 - Greens 27 - Left 20 
 
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minionofmidas
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« Reply #13 on: September 10, 2005, 12:18:15 PM »

Huck:
CDU 36
SPD 31
FDP 31
Greens 24
Left 24...and I gotta say, sounds like one of the most accurate results so far.
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minionofmidas
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« Reply #14 on: September 16, 2005, 12:01:11 PM »

Jas:

CDU/CSU 28
FDP 33
SPD 36
Green 39 (Lewis will be pleased Wink)
Left 33

No, Left's too low. Tongue
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minionofmidas
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« Reply #15 on: September 17, 2005, 03:18:48 AM »

Yep, those were good.
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minionofmidas
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« Reply #16 on: August 16, 2009, 06:58:35 AM »

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minionofmidas
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« Reply #17 on: August 19, 2009, 02:31:31 PM »

You guys do realize this is the four year old one, right? Just checking. Smiley
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minionofmidas
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« Reply #18 on: August 21, 2009, 02:08:41 PM »

Ordering your results from Moderate Hero to Communist Party Hack...

ag: FDP 38, Greens 36, Left 35, SPD 32, CDU 28

Fezzy: Greens 34, Left 33, CDU 30, SPD 30, FDP 28

Tender: Greens 45, Left 43, SPD 40, FDP 26, CDU 18

Harry: Left 43, Greens 42, SPD 38, CDU 24, FDP 24

Gully: Left 50, Greens 43, SPD 37, FDP 31, CDU 19

Reading this thing again, I marvel at how out of sync this test is with the media- (and, not in 2005 but ever after, self-) presented image of the Linkspartei. With reality somewhere in between.
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minionofmidas
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« Reply #19 on: August 21, 2009, 03:04:04 PM »

My score...
Left 48 (of 60)
Greens 47
SPD 43
FDP 29
CDU/CSU 15

Well, I must have changed my mind on a couple of points...

now I get

Left 52
Greens 47
SPD 41
FDP 27
CDU/CSU 15
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minionofmidas
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« Reply #20 on: August 22, 2009, 03:15:27 AM »

Nah. I wasn't talking of the crazy old born-east-of-Oder-Neisse CDU bigots' perception.

That perception is of a single issue party opposed to the economic deregulations of the 90s and 2000s. Of a party for old working class (or unemployed) men, with no relevant stances on social issues.
While this thing here makes them look like, basically, the better Left-Libertarians ("Greens", in political parlance).
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