Irish Elections - Referendum, Presidential, and General (polling or byelections)

[minionofmidas]

Welcome!

I recall some of those maps from looking at old Irish election results on wikipedia.

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Count is complete.
Count No. 3
Higgins 793,128 (+62,648)
Gallagher 548,373 (+18,972)
McGuinness 265,196 (+12,585)
Mitchell 136,309 (+8952)
exhausted +13,369

[minionofmidas]

They'll be distributing McGuinness along with Mitchell.

[minionofmidas]

Norris transfers have taken Higgins ahead of Gallagher in Cork SW and Tipperary N.
Also ahead of McGuinness and into second place in Cavan-Monaghan.

[minionofmidas]

Some final results:
Donegal North East: Higgins 50.3 Gallagher 49.7

Haha, wow.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirtieth_Amendment_of_the_Constitution_Bill_2011_(Ireland)
This is an amendment to allow the Oilycrotches (the Irish Parliament) to investigate or something. Currently the Oirelandhcats (the Irish Parliament) can not do so, or something, so they wanted to allow it to be that way. The Orig... the Irish Parliament wanted these powers, of course, because of the Applebees incident...
Actually
I really dont understand this issue Anyway, it failed.

This referendum
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty-Ninth_Amendment_of_the_Constitution_Bill_2011_(Ireland)
however is easy to understand. It allows the Parliament to lower the wages of judges.

Cause when they made cross-the-board cuts to senior civil servants' pay at the height of the crisis, they had to exempt judges because of the provision now being amended.

[minionofmidas]

Yes, that is the Referendum I do understand.

The other referendum was attempting to overrule a contentious Supreme Court decision.

[minionofmidas]

Except in Ulster, Higgins received the last-count preferences of at least 50.0% (just over, in Roscommon - Leitrim) of third party voters, and usually no more than 56%, except in his Dublin strongholds and in Connaught, where they rise up to 60.8% (Galway West) and a whopping 66.3% (Dublin SE, with Dublin S, Dunleary, and Galway W being the three next best results.) 54.1% is the national figures.
43.4% in Cavan-Monaghan, 38.4% in Donegal SW, and 36.9% in Donegal NE form a remarkable outlier.
Gallagher receives between 15.9% (Dublin SE) and 25.3% (Donegal NE) anywhere except in Cavan-Monaghan, with Dublin results ranging up to 21.4% (N, SW), while his weakest share outside is in the city of Limerick at 18.2%. Cavan-Monaghan gave the local boy 30.8% of lower preferences. The national rate is 21.8%.
The exhausted shares (of the third party vote) are lowest in the same three South Dublin constituencies where Higgins cleans house, though they are not really outliers here - Dublin S coming in lowest at 17.4% - and range up to in 29.2% Cork NC, except in Donniegaul. Here 36.7% (SW) and 37.8% (NE) were exhausted. Cavan-Monaghan is unremarkable at 25.8%. In general, high exhaustion rates appear to be predictably correlated with high vote shares for Martin McGuinness. The national rate is 24.1%.

[minionofmidas]

A bit of that on the second referendum, too, actually.

First map is hilariously uniform, really.

[minionofmidas]

Behaviours & Attitudes are a fairly crappy pollster, no? Not that I really doubt the trends, but IIRC they've had results similar to this that were outliers compared to MRBI & Red C, so I'll hold on to hope.

Labour have certainly made some poor political decisions, though. It's a shame, but FG-Labour really was - and is - the only viable government, so it's a damned-if-they-do damned-if-they-don't kind of situation.

Utterly predictable, isn't it? This was bound to happen when Labour attached itself to Fine Gael and whatever liberal policies they might pursue. The question now is whether Sinn Féin is so unpalatable to the majority of the electorate that it can't consistently poll in second place.

Nah, instead the people will return to the loving embrace of Fianna Fáil after deciding that they're not so bad after all. Séan Gallagher nearly winning the Presidency's made me believe that, although I'm aware I'm being a little pessimistic, like some kind of Irish Beet.

"Irish Beet"? Interesting name for the potato.

[minionofmidas]

Who are these neither male nor female persons and why do they disapprove of indies so much?

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Looking good.

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First one ought to get fewer people to vote 'no'.

[minionofmidas]

Who are you, Tom Elliott?

[minionofmidas]

So basically Donegal and working-class Dublin vote no, middle class Dublin likes the thing, and the rest of Ireland swallows the poisonous medicine because their leaders told them to?

[minionofmidas]

Ms McEntee gets the coveted Jas favourite tag in this by-election which really doesn't matter much at all.

Yes! Jinx her with all your might!

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Recovered isn't really accurate because even their best polls have them far weaker than what would once have been a poor election for them. But, basically, look at the current government and how its done. And then note that the only other party is the Shinners, who are still (aha) beyond the pale for many voters.

Oh no, they're inside now, as Christopher Marlowe accurately foretold:

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So.. FG hold thanks to getting Labour transfers?

What is DDI, exactly?

[minionofmidas]

So.. FG hold thanks to getting Labour transfers?

What is DDI, exactly?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freemen_on_the_land

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sovereign_citizen_movement

So... given that a cursory glance at that DDI website (let alone their wiki semistub) doesn't exactly sound like these kinds of nuts... how far out into that territory (or how strong an influence within the party - newly launched parties, unless they're just a trillionaire's vanity vehicle or commission-of-evil vehicle, always kind a number of certifiable nutcases among their activists. Goes with the whole do-something-new-and-nonestablishment-while-also-thinking-you're-being-important territory) are we talking, exactly?

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Third Count:

McENTEE, Helen	FG	9,547	+1,926	11,173
BYRNE, Thomas	FF	8,106	+1,476	9,582

McEntee elected without reaching quota.

Almost half the Labour /SF/DUI ballots exhausted.

[minionofmidas]

The promised Messiah is not a deity.

Unless you're a Christian.