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minionofmidas
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« on: July 03, 2010, 04:33:48 AM »

Everything depends on what Labour do.

If they're enthusiastically for it, this'll be close.
If they don't care or are against it, it's dead in the water - and so is Nick Clegg. Which should tell you how this'll probably go.
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minionofmidas
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« Reply #1 on: July 04, 2010, 03:35:45 AM »

Will this vote be tied to all that Tory Crap about 3.5% variation, or is that to be enacted independently without asking the people?
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minionofmidas
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« Reply #2 on: July 04, 2010, 06:30:11 AM »

Yes... the question is: Do you vote on all that or just the AV part?
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minionofmidas
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« Reply #3 on: July 05, 2010, 01:14:26 PM »

"Apparently?"  That was stated in the original post, right?

Which I wrote. Yes. But I can be absent minded.

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I think the concern is that it will distract and confuse voters in Scotland and Wales and overshadow the elections. In Wales there is to be another referendum at some point, on increased powers for the Assembly.

Though some backbench Tory MPs have raised concerns about the referendum and the elections being on the same day on the basis that there will be differential turnout.
Quite. Giving the racially inferior Celts an inordinate say. Cheesy
A vote of no confidence will still require a simple majority, however an election will only occur if a government cannot be formed in 14 days
It will take 66% of MP's (429 MP's) to force a dissoultion of Parliament
Or you just wait 14 days, so...

So 5% rather than 3.5% and 600 rather than that previous number (585 or whatever).

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You mean might, not "will". Obviously in some of them, concerns about the neighboring constituencies' shapes and electorates will force changes.
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minionofmidas
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« Reply #4 on: July 05, 2010, 01:33:01 PM »

The whole election scheduling thing looks weird to an American. Here, there is great pressure to hold as many elections on as few dates as possible.
Which is a large part of your problems.

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minionofmidas
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« Reply #5 on: July 05, 2010, 01:41:58 PM »

The whole election scheduling thing looks weird to an American. Here, there is great pressure to hold as many elections on as few dates as possible.
Which is a large part of your problems.

Certainly.

Is cost of elections not an issue?
Ah, what drives "cost of elections"? The cost of the election itself isn't all that high, anyhow, if it doesn't include patent-protected fancy machines.
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minionofmidas
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« Reply #6 on: July 05, 2010, 02:16:45 PM »

You know how little pollworkers get in Germany?
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minionofmidas
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« Reply #7 on: July 05, 2010, 02:46:33 PM »

You know how little pollworkers get in Germany?

Actually, I don't....I think they get like $100/day in Illinois, not entirely sure about the exact number there either.
Yeah, in Germany it's something like 40-60 Euros. It's been a couple of years. Of course, it's taxfree extra income, but... it's not enough that anybody would be doing it for the money alone. Which, I think, is part of the point.
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