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leecannon
Junior Chimp
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« on: March 11, 2024, 11:35:12 PM »
« edited: March 11, 2024, 11:44:24 PM by Born to Slay. Forced to Work. »


DeSantis made this mess. If he agreed to completely scrap the absurd thing and implement LGBT inclusion programs, I’d give him credit. He doesn’t get praise for being less terrible
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leecannon
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #1 on: March 13, 2024, 08:40:19 AM »

The mental gymnastics of a “gay” republicans are as consulates as they are gross
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leecannon
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #2 on: March 18, 2024, 12:22:46 PM »

Alright, I'll rephrase my post as a question: how can you, as a gay man, support the political party that is hostile to LGBT rights? Even if you agree with the Republican Party on every other issue, how can you not view your civil rights as the most important thing? I genuinely do not understand it.

The "movement" for "LGBTQ+ rights" has never spoken for the majority of gay people, who mostly just want to exist unbothered and unnoticed and are ok with conservative institutions (i.e., churches, families, etc.) exerting influence in the ways they traditionally have.  The LGBTQ movement has always been a platform for progressive politics and has become even more cross-contaminated with the "woke" ideology of intersectionality and victimhood in recent years.  Your question is assuming that all gay people should identify as gay first, before any other identity or belief system.  But the very many gay people I know who exist outside the amplified, progressive political bubble have a lot more interesting things going on in their lives.  The activist class has mostly left no room for these types, because it doesn't serve their version of zero-sum identity politics.

"Don't say gay" is not about preventing teachers or students from talking about what goes on in their own households or from referencing gay characters in history/literature in an age-appropriate way, but about making sure classroom instruction isn't an opportunity to push a particular belief about gender or sexuality.  That's defensible because no child should be subject to potentially confusing ideas about gender or sex from empowered adults acting beyond the responsibility given by his parents. 

Jesus Christ
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leecannon
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 7,110
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Political Matrix
E: -6.45, S: -6.78

« Reply #3 on: March 18, 2024, 12:29:51 PM »

The mental gymnastics of a “gay” republicans are as consulates as they are gross

You would only put "gay" in quotation marks if either (1) you think I'm lying about my sexuality to gain some type of credibility for my beliefs, or (2) my political beliefs make my lived experience as an openly gay man less valid (i.e., I'm a gay  Uncle Tom.)

So which is it?

You throw your own community under the bus for a fleeting approval of people who only tolerate you at best and if you stay in line. You may be a MSM, but you’re not gay.
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leecannon
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 7,110
United States


Political Matrix
E: -6.45, S: -6.78

« Reply #4 on: March 18, 2024, 12:37:27 PM »

I will add, I used to think like DT. I grew up in the rural south and for years I thought if I just am a well behaved pillar of the community people won’t mind I’m gay, but that just ain’t true. If you tried to be too visible, too open, you get shoved back into the closet. Even if you don’t people still call you a f@gg@t behind your back.

Respectability Politics are a myth
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