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leecannon
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« on: April 22, 2023, 02:04:10 AM »

This thread drives home the point that republicans don’t understand the difference between punching up and punching down
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leecannon
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2023, 02:46:42 PM »

This thread drives home the point that republicans don’t understand the difference between punching up and punching down

The "punching up versus punching down" dichotomy is a hypocritical exercise in permissive cruelty and those who support it uncritically is usually a sick, twisted, and hateful person.

If you think punching is bad, it's best not to punch anybody.

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Exhibit A
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leecannon
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #2 on: April 23, 2023, 02:51:12 PM »

This thread drives home the point that republicans don’t understand the difference between punching up and punching down

The "punching up versus punching down" dichotomy is a hypocritical exercise in permissive cruelty and those who support it uncritically is usually a sick, twisted, and hateful person.

If you think punching is bad, it's best not to punch anybody.

🤨

Exhibit A

I'm not a Republican and I fully "understand" the difference, I just think it's a fake way for you to be an asshole to people without taking any kind of responsibility ✌️


So in your mind a black person making fun of racist or a gay making fun of bigots is not ok?
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leecannon
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 7,109
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Political Matrix
E: -6.45, S: -6.78

« Reply #3 on: April 23, 2023, 03:11:04 PM »

This thread drives home the point that republicans don’t understand the difference between punching up and punching down

The "punching up versus punching down" dichotomy is a hypocritical exercise in permissive cruelty and those who support it uncritically is usually a sick, twisted, and hateful person.

If you think punching is bad, it's best not to punch anybody.

🤨

Exhibit A

I'm not a Republican and I fully "understand" the difference, I just think it's a fake way for you to be an asshole to people without taking any kind of responsibility ✌️


So in your mind a black person making fun of racist or a gay making fun of bigots is not ok?

I fully understand you think this is a clever gotcha question but I'm not going to answer it unless you tell me specifically what you mean by "making fun of" and "okay" in this hypothetical.

edit: to demonstrate that I am fully understanding of the trap you are lazily trying to set, I will at least say this. Any behavior that I would find an unacceptable form of "punching" coming from a Black person towards a racist or bigot would be just as much if not considerably more objectionable if the roles were reversed.

I actually wasn’t trying to lay any trap. I am genuinely curious about what you deem as acceptable. The last sentence answers my question which is what I suspected so that’s why I asked.

I find that a strange position as you are not taking into accounts any sort social positioning. You’re entitled to think that sure but it’s a harmful position as it leads people equating minorities fighting oppression with oppressors enforcing it. It’s your life believe what you want.
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leecannon
Junior Chimp
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Political Matrix
E: -6.45, S: -6.78

« Reply #4 on: April 23, 2023, 03:57:17 PM »

I find that a strange position as you are not taking into accounts any sort social positioning. You’re entitled to think that sure but it’s a harmful position as it leads people equating minorities fighting oppression with oppressors enforcing it. It’s your life believe what you want.

This is a mischaracterization and does not agree with my position on this concept at all.

For one thing, social positioning is complex, subjective, context-dependent, and arbitrary. Second, putting aside the first point, higher social position does not mean that individuals are incapable of pain and suffering that is implied by the use of the word "punching." Third, fighting oppression and enforcing it are literal opposites, so not only is that a statement I disagree with vehemently but it doesn't really have anything to do with "punching up versus punching down" which implies the same action with different moral stances depending on the identities of the recipient and the source of the punch.

I don't know how you could have possibly thought that that is something I would agree with given the response I gave to your initial question.

Every time I read your posts I get more confused as to what your actual position is.
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leecannon
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 7,109
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Political Matrix
E: -6.45, S: -6.78

« Reply #5 on: April 23, 2023, 04:08:23 PM »

This thread drives home the point that republicans don’t understand the difference between punching up and punching down

What we view as “up” is different than what you guys as “up”. We view bureaucrats and administrators as people whose power we should reduce .


Literally when has any seriously said you can’t make fun of bureaucrats.

Hating on the DMV and the IRS is like the one universal in American politics
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leecannon
Junior Chimp
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Political Matrix
E: -6.45, S: -6.78

« Reply #6 on: April 23, 2023, 10:02:57 PM »
« Edited: April 24, 2023, 02:01:45 AM by Peltola for God Empress »

Ive said this before and I’ll say it again and this will be all I say.

A lot of people on this site confuse the political/social definition of evangelical in America with the ecumenical definition of evangelical
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leecannon
Junior Chimp
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Political Matrix
E: -6.45, S: -6.78

« Reply #7 on: April 23, 2023, 10:56:29 PM »

Evangelism is an inherently liberal branch. It just happens American GOP communists have infiltrated the church, but luckily the churches seem to be fighting back these days.

This is a fascinating take and I desperately want to hear some more of your takes
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leecannon
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 7,109
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Political Matrix
E: -6.45, S: -6.78

« Reply #8 on: April 23, 2023, 11:02:52 PM »

Evangelism is an inherently liberal branch. It just happens American GOP communists have infiltrated the church, but luckily the churches seem to be fighting back these days.

This is a fascinating take and I desperately want to hear some more of your takes
Forumlurker is a great poster and we're blessed to be able to see his posts.

Reminds me of this
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