The HAEV Cooling Off Period Act (Vetoed)

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Can I ask the JCP and other supporters of this measure what they propose to do vis-a-vis zombies? Or do they still believe that it isn't an issue?

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Can I ask the JCP and other supporters of this measure what they propose to do vis-a-vis zombies? Or do they still believe that it isn't an issue?

I strongly believe that the zombies are an issue. I'd like to be able to up the requirements to register once again, to be honest. Possibly moving it to where you have to be registered 25 days? I just don't think HAEV will work as a non-partisan solution, and it has a lot of opposition, it seems.

We've been over this a zillion times. Raising registration requirements will only result in more spam and won't do anything in the long run except delaying the time between registration and registration as a zombie voter.

The HAEV can be reformed, and I support the idea of having rather non-partisan experts such as bullmoose, Gustaf, Peter and so forth on it if it can stop some of its opponents from piling hate and false accusations upon it.

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Can I ask the JCP and other supporters of this measure what they propose to do vis-a-vis zombies? Or do they still believe that it isn't an issue?

I strongly believe that the zombies are an issue. I'd like to be able to up the requirements to register once again, to be honest. Possibly moving it to where you have to be registered 25 days? I just don't think HAEV will work as a non-partisan solution, and it has a lot of opposition, it seems.

We've been over this a zillion times. Raising registration requirements will only result in more spam and won't do anything in the long run except delaying the time between registration and registration as a zombie voter.

The HAEV can be reformed, and I support the idea of having rather non-partisan experts such as bullmoose, Gustaf, Peter and so forth on it if it can stop some of its opponents from piling hate and false accusations upon it.

Well, that could pose as a problem, since I believe there are term limits on being in HAEV. What are we going to do when they have to retire from it? Because honestly, there are very few Atlasians I could trust doing a good job on HAEV. I honestly couldn't even trust myself.

If term limits is your only issue, the legislation can be altered easily.

I'm fed up of this bullsh**t about the politicization of the HAEV. It's only come about because certain members and certain parties have been intent on wrecking it by all means and have turned it into a partisan vendetta. Barnes, Meeker and Peter are honest and neutral members, despite the false accusations and hate piled upon them by the opponents of the HAEV who want to wreck it and the whole idea of zombie reform by all means necessary. Don't fall into the trap.

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Can I ask the JCP and other supporters of this measure what they propose to do vis-a-vis zombies? Or do they still believe that it isn't an issue?

I strongly believe that the zombies are an issue. I'd like to be able to up the requirements to register once again, to be honest. Possibly moving it to where you have to be registered 25 days? I just don't think HAEV will work as a non-partisan solution, and it has a lot of opposition, it seems.

We've been over this a zillion times. Raising registration requirements will only result in more spam and won't do anything in the long run except delaying the time between registration and registration as a zombie voter.

The HAEV can be reformed, and I support the idea of having rather non-partisan experts such as bullmoose, Gustaf, Peter and so forth on it if it can stop some of its opponents from piling hate and false accusations upon it.

Well, that could pose as a problem, since I believe there are term limits on being in HAEV. What are we going to do when they have to retire from it? Because honestly, there are very few Atlasians I could trust doing a good job on HAEV. I honestly couldn't even trust myself.

If term limits is your only issue, the legislation can be altered easily.

I'm fed up of this bullsh**t about the politicization of the HAEV. It's only come about because certain members and certain parties have been intent on wrecking it by all means and have turned it into a partisan vendetta. Barnes, Meeker and Peter are honest and neutral members, despite the false accusations and hate piled upon them by the opponents of the HAEV who want to wreck it and the whole idea of zombie reform by all means necessary. Don't fall into the trap.

I just find it interesting when one HAEV member refuses to look over nominated citizens because it was politically motivated, yet had no probably looking over other nominated citizens, even though they were politically motivated too.

If you have beef with one member, then take it to him, not me, for flip's sake. If you oppose this because you find that one member is using the HAEV as a political vendetta, attempt to have him remove instead of using him as a piss-poor example to support your claim that the HAEV is an evil political machine of the elite.

Which brings me again to the question which nobody has really bothered answering seriously and realistically: what do you propose to do vis-a-vis zombies?

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Another idea, is making guidelines like...
If a person does not make at least 3 (or another number, whatever floats y'alls boats) posts in Atlasia, other than the voting booth, in the past 4 months, they will be removed from the voter roll?

It's easy to make 3 or more spam posts.

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I don't vote based on polls and never will. I vote my conscience.

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I don't vote based on polls and never will. I vote my conscience.

I'm voting based on what I think is best for Atlasia, and what my contituents and Atlasians want.

I too vote on what I think is best for Atlasia, and that's called my conscience. I'm not a stupid populist and won't vote to follow the wind or the polling mood.

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Badger, do you support abolishing the HAEV?

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In that case, I hope you can answer my original query which you haven't answered yet

Can I ask the JCP and other supporters of this measure what they propose to do vis-a-vis zombies? Or do they still believe that it isn't an issue?

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I would be fine with the HAEV as a Supreme Court-like 'board of non-partisan experts' in the mold of Peter, bullmoose and all those people who may be in a party but aren't hacks and can't be said, unless you're intellectually dishonest (which, sadly, is a recurring thing in some parties), to be politically motivated or biased. I'd like that idea to be considered seriously by all sides.

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I am personally opposed to this out of principle, but if the sane and non-demagogic opponents of this say that this will allow the HAEV to prove itself without getting too controversial.

Yes, zombie voting is an issue and must be adressed. I hope some people who oppose the HAEV itself do agree or understand that point.

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NAY

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Sincerely, this bill is one of the stupidest that was ever considered.

Quite so.

This is like something Naso would have introduced. Except that this one will probably pass.

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Aye

I already voted against this bill.

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Very good.