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Beet
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« on: August 17, 2020, 07:58:30 PM »

I've thought of some chants for the Democrats (imagine a hall full of delegates saying these as you sit at home):

Build Back Better
Stronger Together

Kamala Harris for the People
Trump's performance is Medieval

Ho, ho, ho Trumps gotta go
That's why I'm voting for Joe
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« Reply #1 on: August 17, 2020, 08:10:15 PM »

Well I don't hear a legion of Bernie Bros howling like hyenas in the background, so it's already better than 2016.
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« Reply #2 on: August 18, 2020, 08:58:56 PM »

This is the 2nd convention with way too much identity politics.
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« Reply #3 on: August 18, 2020, 09:02:34 PM »

This is the 2nd convention with way too much identity politics.

This convention looks like the country. The RNC has future criminals on it's schedule for obviously racist reasons.

The Maine delegate was literally a gay black guy.
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« Reply #4 on: August 18, 2020, 09:04:10 PM »

This is the 2nd convention with way too much identity politics.

This convention looks like the country. The RNC has future criminals on it's schedule for obviously racist reasons.

The Maine delegate was literally a gay black guy.

Ok and....?

Maine doesn't look like that. Winning the gay black vote isn't going to sway Maine.
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« Reply #5 on: August 18, 2020, 09:06:02 PM »

This is the 2nd convention with way too much identity politics.

This convention looks like the country. The RNC has future criminals on it's schedule for obviously racist reasons.

The Maine delegate was literally a gay black guy.

Ok and....?

Maine doesn't look like that. Winning the gay black vote isn't going to sway Maine.

The convention roll call is going to swing votes now?

Well people are watching it, yeah. What else is the point of televising it?
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« Reply #6 on: August 18, 2020, 09:37:35 PM »

I'm loving the Asian and indigenous representation.  Those are demographics which are often overlooked by Dems.


something something identity politics

Beet isn't wrong there. The Dems are making DAMN SURE not to miss anyone watching. White folks who are voting for Biden anyway don't care how many quote "people of color"/women are being shown. If you're running this campaign the more diversity you can expose the better.

I appreciate the support, but the Dems trying to pick up every last minority is just going to result in de facto ethnoparties in this country. The result of that is that every time the 'other' party in our 2-party system wins power, minorities will have no representation whatsoever. Our civil rights are always on the ballot in every election. It's better for everyone if minorities are more evenly split between the 2 parties & Democrats go after getting more white voters instead.
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« Reply #7 on: August 19, 2020, 07:51:51 PM »

Someone actually made this.

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« Reply #8 on: August 19, 2020, 09:21:44 PM »

Amazing speech by Warren. It's crazy how it doesn't change from pre-campaign to campaign to post-campaign. Emblematic of her consistency and authenticity.
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« Reply #9 on: August 20, 2020, 02:22:57 AM »

I didn't think there was much substance to Kamala's speech, but there was one line that was pretty eloquent. It was the part where she says the "virus cannot see... but it can see how we treat each other." How poignant! Those less likely to get in to Harvard without affirmative action are also less likely to survive COVID-19. Who would have guessed this relationship? Clearly the virus is not selecting for booksmarts or doing one's homework, so there must be something else going on. It cuts against the notion of meritocracy. Yes it is true that the disproportionate deaths from COVID-19 among the socioeconomically disadvantaged is a perfect Rohrshach test for our society. How much is said in that simple phrase!

At the end of the day, she goes down like a cherry coke... looks good, relatives look good, dark skinned but not too dark, black identifying but with a nonthreatening white hairstyle, a vague immigrant background but from a nonthreatening place, smiles brightly, says sweet words, doesn't overcomplicate, doesn't make you think too hard, sticks to the straight and narrow, is educated and eloquent enough not to sound dumb but not so eloquent to intimidate. She's digested easily. One may not come away from her speech sure of what policies she supports, but one leaves with a vague positive buzz, a pleasing taste in the mouth. Maybe that is more important than anything.
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« Reply #10 on: August 20, 2020, 10:03:05 PM »

Tremendous speech! I'm back on the Biden train.
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« Reply #11 on: August 21, 2020, 05:33:33 AM »

In case you were wondering why Castro was canceled.



Maybe Castro should have laughed and said "it was a debate" over and over again when talking about the attacks.
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« Reply #12 on: August 21, 2020, 06:19:39 AM »

In case you were wondering why Castro was canceled.



Maybe Castro should have laughed and said "it was a debate" over and over again when talking about the attacks.

Harris attacked Biden on a policy issue and clearly stated that she didn't believe he was a racist.
Castro's hit was ageist and below the belt.

A "policy issue" from nearly 50 years ago that Harris herself didn't oppose. And the clear implication was that he was a racist. And it had nothing to do with age, Castro's comments clearly wouldn't have been directed at the older Sanders.
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« Reply #13 on: August 21, 2020, 08:52:23 AM »

A "policy issue" from nearly 50 years ago that Harris herself didn't oppose. And the clear implication was that he was a racist. And it had nothing to do with age, Castro's comments clearly wouldn't have been directed at the older Sanders.

1) No, the implication was about ideology.

2) He didn't attack Sanders because he was after his voters.

1) "You opposed integration (busing)" isn't about ideology. It's clearly about racism.

2) I was wrong... he would have directed the same comments at Sanders. But not because of Sanders' age. He says he would have directed them at any of the candidates for forgetting what they said two minutes ago, here. It still wasn't an attack on Biden's age, though.
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« Reply #14 on: August 21, 2020, 10:44:37 AM »

Also, I'm not at all surprised to see Castro uninvited.  I cringed so hard watching that debate.  I knew I was watching someone's career self-destruct in real time.  I felt the same way watching Bloomberg but at least that wasn't really an active self-destruction so much as Warren brutally highlighting issues that he already had.

The worst part of it all is that Castro was dead wrong.  Biden didn't forget what he had said two minutes earlier, Castro did.  He had the nerve to attack Biden, repeatedly, as old and senile for forgetting what he'd said two minutes earlier, when in fact he should have been attacking himself!

I still haven't forgiven Cory Booker for going on TV after the debate and backing up Castro either.  It was very un-Booker and very sleazy.

Castro wasn't wrong. He rightfully pointed out that Biden's plan requires people to buy in, but his plan doesn't. And Biden himself had earlier used that exact phrase.

As for Booker... it's simple. Booker understands that society simply cannot deal with the anger of men of color. What Biden meant when he said Obama was "clean... articulate" is that, first and foremost, he isn't angry. That's the real reason behind the ferociousness of the hatred against Castro for that exchange. Booker is well aware of this since he's crafted his entire political identity around the same limitation, and he often got bashed for it.
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« Reply #15 on: August 21, 2020, 05:27:28 PM »

So about Castro being snubbed...



That's a big relief. Whoever tweeted that needless and false insult against Castro should be ashamed of themselves.
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