Iowa Democratic County Convention Results- Where to find??

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Shows the Bernie folks' complete disrespect of democracy. Reminds me of Ron Paul supporters in '12.

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Shows the Bernie folks' complete disrespect of democracy. Reminds me of Ron Paul supporters in '12.

Come on, a lot of Hillary supporters switched to supporting Bernie, just like 8 years ago a lot of Hillary supporters switched to supporting Obama.

A comment like that says you fundamentally have no regard for the democratic process.

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Shows the Bernie folks' complete disrespect of democracy. Reminds me of Ron Paul supporters in '12.

Come on, a lot of Hillary supporters switched to supporting Bernie, just like 8 years ago a lot of Hillary supporters switched to supporting Obama.

A comment like that says you fundamentally have no regard for the democratic process.

If you support sequestering people for 8 hours because you don't like the vote, then you are the one with no regard for the democratic process.

I have no idea what you are talking about. The caucus system is undemocratic as it is, but overturning the result at higher level conventions removes any semblance of democracy from it.

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jfern has told us how Iowa voters would vote guys, there is no need to have an election.

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Shows the Bernie folks' complete disrespect of democracy. Reminds me of Ron Paul supporters in '12.

Come on, a lot of Hillary supporters switched to supporting Bernie, just like 8 years ago a lot of Hillary supporters switched to supporting Obama.

A comment like that says you fundamentally have no regard for the democratic process.

If you support sequestering people for 8 hours because you don't like the vote, then you are the one with no regard for the democratic process.

I have no idea what you are talking about. The caucus system is undemocratic as it is, but overturning the result at higher level conventions removes any semblance of democracy from it.

Bernie would easily win Iowa if it voted today.

Who cares? That's not how democracy and elections work.

It's how caucuses work. Obama did much better in later rounds 8 years ago.

Then that's just more evidence that caucuses are fundamentally unfair and undemocratic, as if we needed more.

Precisely. Caucuses have zero democratic legitimacy. In 2012 a guy who got only 21% of the vote ended up with almost all the delegates.

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Worth noting: Clinton won 53.2% of Polk County in precinct caucuses, only 51.1% in county convention. Given how close the race is, it's still possible that flips the state.

Yes, if he gained 2% in Polk, he certainly won the state by a bigger margin than Clinton preliminarily won it.

No necessarily. It depends how the rest of the county conventions and the congressional district conventions go. A lot can change.

Well, yes, that's assuming the rest of the state stays roughly the same. The different in SDEs was around 6 by the end, and 2% of Polk is way more than that.

Definitely not a safe assumption.

How many SDEs does Polk county have? It cast about 23,000 delegate votes in the caucuses, (or about 16%) of the total. If 6 SDEs is less than one-fiftieth of the Polk total, it would have to have well over 300 SDEs, or over 21% of the total.

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Where I was, there were 239 Hillary supporters and 188 Bernie supporters, and they ended up getting 3 delegates each.

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Apparently the official count is 144 delegates for both Clinton and Sanders. Looks more like Sanders is abusing the caucus process than Clinton. Turning a 52-47 Clinton win into a 50-50 tie.

Precinct delegates are mostly normal people who can change their mind. Bernie is doing better now than he was doing before results came in on February 1st. I knew there was a decent chance Bernie would win Iowa in the end, but Hillary supporters are just in denial.

The Bernie folks and trying to make it hard for the Hillary folks so that they'll leave...

https://twitter.com/TanyaKeith/status/708808123532713984

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https://twitter.com/kimfrederi/status/708820228285726720

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"Patty Glaser • 23 minutes ago
Kcci get the facts straight. The first count was incorrect. Even a Bernie person stood up ( after we had been checked in for 3 hours) asking why he was listed as a Hillary person vs a Clinton. Others came forward with the opposite issue. Quite a few Clinton people were checked in as Bernie. Then a recount happened. Hillary people had to fill out a card and then were rechecked in. The count for Hillary went up a lot and Bernie went down. Then the Bernie people asked to recount the Hillary people and the count was similar. hillary had more. Both sides agreed to count. Then the 8 omalley people selected. 6 Hillary and 2 Bernie. But Bernie team disagreed and felt there was one more Malley on there side ( yup 2 plus six equals 9) so the Hillary people said fine take one. Then the Polk county people said no lets recount again. Many people left. The count dropped to almost equal. Then the Bernie people had a sit in and made everyone wait 3 hours while they determined who got to go to districts. The results should be similar to caucus night. The first count was messed up. Maybe the people checking folks in were the problem? Over 500 people were no shows and I think what happened is they let alternates in without making sure the alternate replaced the candidate they were an alternate for!"

http://www.kcci.com/news/supporters-leave-county-democratic-convention-in-frustration/38484946