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wbrocks67
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« Reply #50 on: October 04, 2022, 07:26:09 PM »

We haven't gotten any recent polling really but the one we did (last week I think?) had Ryan +3.

Ryan has a shot; Vance should've been able to put this away by now.
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« Reply #51 on: October 05, 2022, 07:59:24 AM »
Ryan raised $17M in Q3. If Vance's #s are as atrocious as they were last quarter, it's very possible Ryan has still been able to lead the airwaves since candidates get much better rates than the PACs.
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« Reply #52 on: October 05, 2022, 07:26:11 PM »
Quote from: Unelectable Bystander on October 05, 2022, 06:54:23 PM
Quote from: Arizona Iced Tea on October 05, 2022, 06:25:53 PM


This is reported by the AP? That may be all she wrote.

It's $27,000 that dates back all the way to 2007.
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« Reply #53 on: October 06, 2022, 07:25:41 AM »
Quote from: Coldstream on October 06, 2022, 05:25:34 AM
Ryan winning is of course a massive long shot. But normal people do not want a hedge fund creep like JD Vance representing them, the R next to his name may get him over the line - but it’s hardly surprising he’s struggling. Ryan will also completely destroy him during the debates (not because he’s great, because Vance is terrible) which may or may not matter.

is there going to be a debate in this race?
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« Reply #54 on: October 08, 2022, 10:53:16 AM »
Is Vance doing any campaigning? It feels like his presence is invisible with one month to go
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« Reply #55 on: October 08, 2022, 04:40:49 PM »
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« Reply #56 on: October 10, 2022, 09:55:43 AM »
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« Reply #57 on: October 10, 2022, 10:43:52 AM »
Also, given DeWine's +17 and Whaley's (surprising) -11 here, this isn't some super Dem poll lol.
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« Reply #58 on: October 10, 2022, 11:28:45 AM »
Quote from: Trumbull County #Populist for Tim Ryan on October 10, 2022, 11:22:26 AM
Favorability numbers are a useless data point these days.

Not necessarily - they're good for seeing if attacks are working on particular candidates or not. Vance may full well win simply because he's a Rep. But the story this entire cycle - from the summer to now - has been his unpopularity with voters.
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« Reply #59 on: October 10, 2022, 12:52:21 PM »
This all seems overdramatic to me; the main reason is most likely the fact that Ryan is a prolific fundraiser while Vance is not. There's a reason GOP groups are blowing their wads in this race - bc Vance is broke. Ryan doesn't need outside spending. His money is going way further, and he also would be attacked anyway for "taking national Dem money" etc

If Ryan wins or loses, it's not going to be because of a few more dollars from Senate Majority PAC.
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« Reply #60 on: October 10, 2022, 06:27:21 PM »
Vance comes out in support of nationwide abortion ban
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« Reply #61 on: October 10, 2022, 06:33:32 PM »
and then Vance apparently said -

yikes
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« Reply #62 on: October 10, 2022, 06:34:45 PM »
i'm sorry, what??
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« Reply #63 on: October 10, 2022, 06:42:15 PM »
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« Reply #64 on: October 10, 2022, 07:03:23 PM »
Good strategy for the whole "Dems are soft on crime" narrative.
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« Reply #65 on: October 10, 2022, 07:05:55 PM »
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« Reply #66 on: October 11, 2022, 02:48:25 PM »
Quote from: Bismarck on October 10, 2022, 09:42:30 PM
Quote from: Calthrina950 on October 10, 2022, 09:41:10 PM
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There have been diametrically opposed responses to this debate. Predictably, Democrats are singing Ryan's praises and denouncing Vance, and Republicans are singing Vance's praises and denouncing Ryan. That's why this debate won't have much of an effect upon the race.

Both of them actually performed pretty well I thought.

That was largely my impression as well, although I would give Vance the edge in terms of who won the debate.

Yeah I would agree. I don’t think it will change the race substantially.

Vance last night:
-came out against marriage equality act
-said the situation in Ukraine is not a security issue to us
-came out in favor of a national abortion ban
-insinuated women being raped is somehow Tim Ryan's fault

among other things. Not sure how he won it.

If you're going off of who was more "polished" then I don't think you're reading the OH electorate correctly. Not just that, but it's easy to be "polished" when you just sit and lie. Vance is essentially a coastal elite, it's not surprised he's a more "polished" public speaker than Vance. But that type of stuff is the least likely thing to matter in an "Ohio" debate. Maybe if this was Massachusetts or something...
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« Reply #67 on: October 12, 2022, 05:45:06 PM »
Quote from: lakeview on October 12, 2022, 05:20:46 PM
Quote from: GeorgiaModerate on October 12, 2022, 04:44:37 PM
On the day that a jury socked Alex Jones for nearly $1 Billion in damages to the Sandy Hook families, a reminder:



Oh no, Vance criticized Rachel Maddow, I'm sure Ohio voters will hate that. /s

By the way, would you like me to post Rachel Maddow's commentary on the Covid vaccines?



you literally missed the entire part of the post. wow.
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« Reply #68 on: October 13, 2022, 11:11:01 AM »
Vance raised $7M in Q3

https://twitter.com/mattholt33/status/1580588350750470149

This is probably why polls are still showing a tight race here. Vance has more outside spending, but Ryan has more personal spending, so even though GOP is dumping tens of millions into this, Ryan is getting way better rates still.
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« Reply #69 on: October 17, 2022, 06:37:28 PM »
This isn't going well for Vance
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« Reply #70 on: October 17, 2022, 07:07:36 PM »
Ryan brought out the Alex Jones quote
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