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Big Abraham
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« on: October 02, 2020, 07:55:01 PM »

The Comey letter has to be...up there, right?

Trump will probably lose by more than Hillary lost.

Also, Greeley's wife died five days before the election of 1872, which precipitated his own death only a month later
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Big Abraham
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« Reply #1 on: October 02, 2020, 07:56:13 PM »

Covid 19 isn't the only Pandemic we had, it's the first Pandemic where we had social distancing due to cyber tech, we had chicken pox in 1986, and everyone went to school and no social distancing required

Chickenpox kills even less people than the flu does
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Big Abraham
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« Reply #2 on: October 02, 2020, 08:43:24 PM »

Never mind the week.  It has been a terrible year for Trump -and it was all self-inflicted.  Nothing that has happened (including the arrival of the coronavirus on American shores) was beyond his control to prevent or ameliorate.  

Outside of a few scattered Pacific Island nations, every single country has dealt with the arrival of the coronavirus on its shores. How exactly would you have expected a nation of 300+ million to prevent a single COVID case from manifesting here?
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Big Abraham
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« Reply #3 on: October 02, 2020, 08:55:39 PM »

Never mind the week.  It has been a terrible year for Trump -and it was all self-inflicted.  Nothing that has happened (including the arrival of the coronavirus on American shores) was beyond his control to prevent or ameliorate.  

Outside of a few scattered Pacific Island nations, every single country has dealt with the arrival of the coronavirus on its shores. How exactly would you have expected a nation of 300+ million to prevent a single COVID case from manifesting here?




Then why would you not refer to the pandemic itself, rather than the specific mention the virus' "arrival", as though that is Trump's to blame?
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Big Abraham
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« Reply #4 on: October 02, 2020, 10:11:19 PM »

Late October-Early November 1980 was a disaster for Jimmy Carter.  But this week may take the cake.

I'm now convinced that 2020 is a redux of 1980. As we move into October, it is looking increasingly likely that Biden will win by a margin comparable to that of Ronald Reagan's that year-and Trump's litany of disasters parallel those which engulfed Carter. His poor debate performance is similar to that of Carter's-Reagan's "Are you better off than you were four years ago?" was the death knell for the Carter campaign, and so will Trump's rambling prove to be for his.

This election is indeed looking to be a redux of 1980, and just as realigning and paradigm-shifting.  The current neoliberal Reagan era is coming to a close, just as the New Deal era was sputtering to an end in 1980.  I think we can safely dispose of the old adage that 'government is not the solution to our problems -it is the problem.'  People are looking to government like never before to solve our problems.  

The current neoliberal era is coming to a close... by a neoliberal likely winning a decisive victory over Trump

By the way, "government doing things" doesn't negate neoliberalism in anyway. The Obama-Biden administration was a fundamentally neoliberal one, despite the stimulus and bailout of GM
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Big Abraham
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« Reply #5 on: October 02, 2020, 10:21:25 PM »
« Edited: October 02, 2020, 10:29:42 PM by Big Abraham »

Obama campaigned as a progressive and governed as a neoliberal/moderate. Watch Biden do the opposite, lol.

Remember, Biden entered politics before the Reagan Era began!

I think his record and policy positions can speak for itself

Late October-Early November 1980 was a disaster for Jimmy Carter.  But this week may take the cake.

I'm now convinced that 2020 is a redux of 1980. As we move into October, it is looking increasingly likely that Biden will win by a margin comparable to that of Ronald Reagan's that year-and Trump's litany of disasters parallel those which engulfed Carter. His poor debate performance is similar to that of Carter's-Reagan's "Are you better off than you were four years ago?" was the death knell for the Carter campaign, and so will Trump's rambling prove to be for his.

This election is indeed looking to be a redux of 1980, and just as realigning and paradigm-shifting.  The current neoliberal Reagan era is coming to a close, just as the New Deal era was sputtering to an end in 1980.  I think we can safely dispose of the old adage that 'government is not the solution to our problems -it is the problem.'  People are looking to government like never before to solve our problems.  

The current neoliberal era is coming to a close... by a neoliberal likely winning a decisive victory over Trump

By the way, "government doing things" doesn't negate neoliberalism in anyway. The Obama-Biden administration was a fundamentally neoliberal one, despite the stimulus and bailout of GM

Yeah, and Reagan was a former New Deal Democrat and union boss. So what?

Biden has solely based his campaign, insofar as his policies are concerned, on continuing the agenda of the Obama administration. Reagan never campaigned as a unionist or "fifth-term FDR", nor ever governed as such in any of the offices to which he was elected. Nonsensical comparison through and through
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Big Abraham
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« Reply #6 on: October 02, 2020, 11:24:36 PM »
« Edited: October 02, 2020, 11:40:39 PM by Big Abraham »

Obama campaigned as a progressive and governed as a neoliberal/moderate. Watch Biden do the opposite, lol.

Remember, Biden entered politics before the Reagan Era began!

I think his record and policy positions can speak for itself

Late October-Early November 1980 was a disaster for Jimmy Carter.  But this week may take the cake.

I'm now convinced that 2020 is a redux of 1980. As we move into October, it is looking increasingly likely that Biden will win by a margin comparable to that of Ronald Reagan's that year-and Trump's litany of disasters parallel those which engulfed Carter. His poor debate performance is similar to that of Carter's-Reagan's "Are you better off than you were four years ago?" was the death knell for the Carter campaign, and so will Trump's rambling prove to be for his.

This election is indeed looking to be a redux of 1980, and just as realigning and paradigm-shifting.  The current neoliberal Reagan era is coming to a close, just as the New Deal era was sputtering to an end in 1980.  I think we can safely dispose of the old adage that 'government is not the solution to our problems -it is the problem.'  People are looking to government like never before to solve our problems.  

The current neoliberal era is coming to a close... by a neoliberal likely winning a decisive victory over Trump

By the way, "government doing things" doesn't negate neoliberalism in anyway. The Obama-Biden administration was a fundamentally neoliberal one, despite the stimulus and bailout of GM

Yeah, and Reagan was a former New Deal Democrat and union boss. So what?

Biden has solely based his campaign, insofar as his policies are concerned, on continuing the agenda of the Obama administration. Reagan never campaigned as a unionist or "fifth-term FDR", nor ever governed as such in any of the offices to which he was elected. Nonsensical comparison through and through

Comparing Obama to Reagan is nonsensical

He touted many times over his administration his welfare "reform", proved to be a Reaganite on foreign policy by hemorrhaging funds and weapons against Iran, sanctions, an invasion of Libya, bombings in Syria and other Middle Eastern countries, all as part of a larger "proxy war" with Russia.

On every level, the Obama administration could not break with neoliberalism. Whereas F. Roosevelt assailed the "money chargers" and stressed public works, Obama extolled the virtues of "risk taking" business leaders. Expanding unemployment compensation was ruled out, and even the stimulus total plummeted again and again until it was barely adequate, and even this couldn't be done without supply-side measures like tax cuts. His health-care "reform" bill would have been a blessing to Reagan-era Republicans, who rallied against "socialized" medicine, as it demanded the individual purchase health insurance on the private market, without room for a public option.

I need not speak about free trade. Both Reagan and Obama were massive fans of FTAs, outsourcing jobs, and continued globalization which allows corporation to drive down wages on the working class the Democrats abandoned.

Like Reagan, the great enemy of the press, who imposed an unprecedented media blackout on the Grenada war and barred reporters from entering the country until it was supposedly "safe" enough, Obama spied on multiple journalists and tried to have a reporter jailed for not revealing his sources.

Oh, but Obama's a black Democrat who let gays join the military, so he's totally different
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