The Atlas Asylum of absurd/ignorant posts IX

[KaiserDave]

How do we know it wasn't a Trump supporter who did this to help Trump's law and order narrative? If we are going to be ridiculous and blame random people for crime then let's be consistent.

That aside, we don't know what the motivation for this was. It could have been personal for all we know or a gang initiation. It's really annoying that every single thing is turned into some sort of political act.

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Dr.Scholl is arguably the second worst hack on this forum.

Who is number one (I will cause problems on purpose with this one)

[KaiserDave]

PSOL I would say is perhaps exaggerating the situation, or at least I would say he is understating the opposition to the Normandy invasions and subsequent combat. And the supply and logistics support provided by the western allies.

I also take issue with the Japanese comment, the Soviets stopped fighting them after Khalkhin Gol in 1939, and while the Soviet invasion of Manchuria was instrumental in the Japanese surrender, it would be unwise to understate the western involvement in slaying the Japanese Empire. And of course in the European Theatre there was Molotov-Ribbentrop.

However the overall thrust of PSOL's statement is largely true, if indelicate. The Soviets bled and died in the millions to destroy fascism, more than anybody else*


*Do not forget the Chinese front

[KaiserDave]

As the article makes clear, this kid's problems originate outside the classroom.  Schools are critical points for delivering kids help they often can't get anywhere else, but they can't assume sole responsibility for rearing the next generation.  At some point, we have to concede that our culture of individuality and dependence has ruined tens of millions of lives.  We need a return to the Victorian concept of poverty as a moral failing of those languishing in it and understand our collective responsibility not to provide for them but to instruct them in how to live more virtuous lives. 

Very disappointed in Del Taco.

Disappointed, but unfortunately not surprised. Sad!

[KaiserDave]

What if there was no George Floyd but COVID or vise versa?

The two are related.  Without COVID, you wouldn't have tens of millions of Americans sitting idle, binging 16 hours of cable news/social media every day, not able to go out and do the things that normally keep them occupied (i.e., work, school, church, gym, visiting family, going to restaurants/bars, etc.)  That sort of society-wide lethargy is a powder keg for unrest.  The George Floyd protests were so huge mostly because of the COVID lockdowns.

COVID was the most animating event of the past twenty years, and it wasn't even a singular event - it was (and is continuing) to get rehashed day-in-and-day-out by a rent-seeking public health intelligentsia helped by their friends in a profit-maximizing media industry.  You can't separate anything that has happened since March 2020 from its omnipresence.

Del Taco has a very limited or non-existent grasp of how most Americans live. Which is kinda a foundational aspect of conservatism.

I think he has a point, though, in that last summer, the BLM protests were basically the only thing going on, so they got a ton of attention. There were NBA players that objected to restarting their season because they were concerned it would take attention off the protests, which corroborates this. I’ll ignore your dig at my ideology to say that.

I think Del Taco's post is pretty bad, but I do agree here. No COVID means no George Floyd murder for butterfly reasons, but COVID lockdowns were part of the reasons the protests were so big.

[KaiserDave]

Democrats want to inject microchips so the government can track you at all times.

No need. Big tech already does that.

Do you know what a phone is

[KaiserDave]

A Martin Luther king holiday themed extravaganza here.

King wasn’t a leftist, lmao. Most leftists themselves define left-wing politics as politics which prioritizes equality over all things. King’s ideology prioritized the salvation of all human beings above all things, making him a right-winger, by definition. The fact that he also had some ideas that in the context of 1960s USA (like racial equality) could be viewed as left-wing don’t take away from his actual underlying dominant ideology.

Darn you beat me to it!

[KaiserDave]

Let’s see if I can draw an analogy here:

Otto von Bismarck designed and implemented the most egalitarian social safety net that the world up until that time had ever seen. Given how left-wing politics is based on having equality as the most important goal within a system, this would make Bismarck seemingly a left-winger. Yet all historians correctly identify Bismarck as being a staunch right-winger. Why? Because Bismarck wasn’t really concerned with equality- he was concerned with strengthening Germany and it’s people. The fact that equality was a means to this end does not really matter- it’s the underlying goals that count.

King absolutely strove for racial and economic equality. So why isn’t he a left-winger then? Because the underlying goal wasn’t equality- it was ending the divisions between human beings so all could become unified with Christ, just as God intended. That is ultimately a right-wing goal (which is why theocracy is always correctly placed on the right-end of the political spectrum).

[KaiserDave]

Every time TheReckoning opens his mouth about history he makes himself sound like an idiot. Sometimes its harmless stupidity, sometimes its dangerous pseudo-history, and sometimes its insulting garbage like these insults against the Danish people, and insult to the thousands of Danes who died fighting the Nazis and at the hand of Nazi oppression. Horrible, and there should be sanctions for this. And somehow this came up in a thread about murdered children.

[KaiserDave]

Every time TheReckoning opens his mouth about history he makes himself sound like an idiot. Sometimes its harmless stupidity, sometimes its dangerous pseudo-history, and sometimes its insulting garbage like these insults against the Danish people, and insult to the thousands of Danes who died fighting the Nazis and at the hand of Nazi oppression. Horrible, and there should be sanctions for this. And somehow this came up in a thread about murdered children.

You’re making yourself sound stupid because you aren’t reading my posts. I made it clear my post about Danish people weren’t insults. The Danish government probably made the right choice given the circumstances. And many Danes did try to fight the Nazis. But if you can’t see the massive differences between how Finns reacted to being invaded and how Danes reacted to being invaded…

All my posts about Sea Lion are objectively correct by all historian analysis.

Yes....I'm making myself sound stupid.

[KaiserDave]

I mean really, I'm the stupid person, not the one who in a thread about a massacre of children tried to make hideously broad, insulting, and historically ignorant generalizations about Northern European nationalities.