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SN2903
Junior Chimp
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« on: May 18, 2020, 05:34:31 PM »
« edited: May 18, 2020, 05:42:54 PM by SN2903 »

Too early to say. There really hasn't been a campaign yet. I think when things really heat up in Aug and Sept he is going to collapse. Not collapse, as in Trump wins in a landslide ,collapse as in his slight lead will turn into a comfortable small lead for Trump (5-7 pt swing).  There are already warning signs since he has been fumbing on online zoom podcasts even with all this time to prepare at home. I think once the campaigning starts again he is not goign to be able to handle the criticism.  Hillary is a lot tougher than Biden and I do think Biden is the weakest democratic nominee since Dukakis in '88 (yes weaker than Kerry). I don't think he is going to be able to handle the attacks the RNC and Trump are going to throw at him. It's going to get nasty very soon.

I agree with a previous poster that Trump's campaign has not been as strong as 2016 so far. That is obvious, but it doesn't need to be. That was a masterful campaign. Obama's 2012 campaign while good was nowhere near as good as 2008 and he still won. Trump just has to get over the finish line which I believe he will do.
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SN2903
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 6,665
United States


Political Matrix
E: -1.48, S: 3.91

P P
« Reply #1 on: May 18, 2020, 06:15:23 PM »

Too early to say. There really hasn't been a campaign yet. I think when things really heat up in Aug and Sept he is going to collapse. Not collapse, as in Trump wins in a landslide ,collapse as in his slight lead will turn into a comfortable small lead for Trump (5-7 pt swing).  There are already warning signs since he has been fumbing on online zoom podcasts even with all this time to prepare at home. I think once the campaigning starts again he is not goign to be able to handle the criticism.  Hillary is a lot tougher than Biden and I do think Biden is the weakest democratic nominee since Dukakis in '88 (yes weaker than Kerry). I don't think he is going to be able to handle the attacks the RNC and Trump are going to throw at him. It's going to get nasty very soon.

I agree with a previous poster that Trump's campaign has not been as strong as 2016 so far. That is obvious, but it doesn't need to be. That was a masterful campaign. Obama's 2012 campaign while good was nowhere near as good as 2008 and he still won. Trump just has to get over the finish line which I believe he will do.

Huh? Obama's 2012 Campaign was much better then his 2008, they successfully painted Romney as an out of touch plutocrat early and it stuck. What does the RNC/Trump attack Biden on? China, they've already spent millions on ads to attach him to Biden and they haven't been effective, while Biden/Biden allied PACs have been hammering Trump on everything from Healthcare to China very effectively.
Dude. People aren't focused on politics yet. Wait till Aug and Sept and wait till the economy starts coming back this summer. By the RNC Trump will have a slight lead. Trust me.
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SN2903
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,665
United States


Political Matrix
E: -1.48, S: 3.91

P P
« Reply #2 on: May 18, 2020, 06:34:08 PM »

Too early to say. There really hasn't been a campaign yet. I think when things really heat up in Aug and Sept he is going to collapse. Not collapse, as in Trump wins in a landslide ,collapse as in his slight lead will turn into a comfortable small lead for Trump (5-7 pt swing).  There are already warning signs since he has been fumbing on online zoom podcasts even with all this time to prepare at home. I think once the campaigning starts again he is not goign to be able to handle the criticism.  Hillary is a lot tougher than Biden and I do think Biden is the weakest democratic nominee since Dukakis in '88 (yes weaker than Kerry). I don't think he is going to be able to handle the attacks the RNC and Trump are going to throw at him. It's going to get nasty very soon.

I agree with a previous poster that Trump's campaign has not been as strong as 2016 so far. That is obvious, but it doesn't need to be. That was a masterful campaign. Obama's 2012 campaign while good was nowhere near as good as 2008 and he still won. Trump just has to get over the finish line which I believe he will do.

Huh? Obama's 2012 Campaign was much better then his 2008, they successfully painted Romney as an out of touch plutocrat early and it stuck. What does the RNC/Trump attack Biden on? China, they've already spent millions on ads to attach him to Biden and they haven't been effective, while Biden/Biden allied PACs have been hammering Trump on everything from Healthcare to China very effectively.
Dude. People aren't focused on politics yet. Wait till Aug and Sept and wait till the economy starts coming back this summer. By the RNC Trump will have a slight lead. Trust me.


Trumps own Federal Reserve chairman Jerome Powell just said yesterday that he thinks the US economy will not recover until late 2021.....
Full recovery. It can't get worse than now. Business is gradually re-opening.
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SN2903
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 6,665
United States


Political Matrix
E: -1.48, S: 3.91

P P
« Reply #3 on: May 18, 2020, 07:17:15 PM »

Too early to say. There really hasn't been a campaign yet. I think when things really heat up in Aug and Sept he is going to collapse. Not collapse, as in Trump wins in a landslide ,collapse as in his slight lead will turn into a comfortable small lead for Trump (5-7 pt swing).  There are already warning signs since he has been fumbing on online zoom podcasts even with all this time to prepare at home. I think once the campaigning starts again he is not goign to be able to handle the criticism.  Hillary is a lot tougher than Biden and I do think Biden is the weakest democratic nominee since Dukakis in '88 (yes weaker than Kerry). I don't think he is going to be able to handle the attacks the RNC and Trump are going to throw at him. It's going to get nasty very soon.

I agree with a previous poster that Trump's campaign has not been as strong as 2016 so far. That is obvious, but it doesn't need to be. That was a masterful campaign. Obama's 2012 campaign while good was nowhere near as good as 2008 and he still won. Trump just has to get over the finish line which I believe he will do.

Huh? Obama's 2012 Campaign was much better then his 2008, they successfully painted Romney as an out of touch plutocrat early and it stuck. What does the RNC/Trump attack Biden on? China, they've already spent millions on ads to attach him to Biden and they haven't been effective, while Biden/Biden allied PACs have been hammering Trump on everything from Healthcare to China very effectively.
Dude. People aren't focused on politics yet. Wait till Aug and Sept and wait till the economy starts coming back this summer. By the RNC Trump will have a slight lead. Trust me.


Trumps own Federal Reserve chairman Jerome Powell just said yesterday that he thinks the US economy will not recover until late 2021.....
Full recovery. It can't get worse than now. Business is gradually re-opening.

you are right It cant get worse but CBO is projecting it be a while before things truly get better

this is what CBO is currently projecting for 2020 and 2021



so even if Business gradually re-opening as you say Unemployment will still be over 11 percent by the end of the year





Biden is running a good ad campaign and has the full might of the DNC and Democratic donors behind him, so I don't think we'll see your Trump surge in 2020.
There's going to be a Trump surge. The question is when.
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