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Ferguson97
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« on: March 12, 2024, 04:16:57 PM »

No.  This ruling reflects how the law was written and meant to be enforced.  Liberals overreacted (as they always do) and this outcome simply codifies what the law was really always about: no classroom instruction on sexual orientation or gender identity.

It’s genuinely pathetic how much water you carry for a party that hates you.
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« Reply #1 on: March 12, 2024, 04:57:25 PM »

No.  This ruling reflects how the law was written and meant to be enforced.  Liberals overreacted (as they always do) and this outcome simply codifies what the law was really always about: no classroom instruction on sexual orientation or gender identity.

It’s genuinely pathetic how much water you carry for a party that hates you.

It's pretty pathetic how you always post personal attacks and can't debate actual issues with a semblance of nuance.

Criticism of your beliefs and hypocrisy is not a personal attack.
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« Reply #2 on: March 12, 2024, 05:05:41 PM »

Funny how your post includes neither, eh?

It includes both. What do you think “carry water for a party that hates you” means?
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« Reply #3 on: March 12, 2024, 05:47:55 PM »

Funny how your post includes neither, eh?

It includes both. What do you think “carry water for a party that hates you” means?

That is not a criticism of anyone's beliefs.  If you think my "take" on this issue is wrong, you are welcomed to offer up arguments to change my mind (or at least make me sound stupid.)  All you have done is show how ungracious you are to the idea that queer folks are diverse in their politics and lived experiences, probably because it is simpler for you to treat LGBTQ+ people as political props in service to an agenda.

Alright, I'll rephrase my post as a question: how can you, as a gay man, support the political party that is hostile to LGBT rights? Even if you agree with the Republican Party on every other issue, how can you not view your civil rights as the most important thing? I genuinely do not understand it.
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« Reply #4 on: March 18, 2024, 06:25:53 PM »

Most gay people do not want to burn down the church or erase the nuclear family.  Even if growing up as gay in the culture is hard (and really what makes us queer, to boot), it's still preferable to a world where those institutions cease to be societal cornerstones (which is what progressive ideology, and thus "LGBTQ+", is all about.)  As someone who chose to elevate my identity as a Christian and as a conservative above being gay, it is not surprising that I would know/interact mostly with gay people who come from the same mindset.

...You're insinuating that destroying the church and erasing the nuclear family is the goal of the broader LGBT+ movement?

This is not a sentiment that is tethered to reality.

Of course, I have plenty of interaction with the activist set because that's what the political media is most interested in showcasing (and many younger gay people do identify with and parrot it, if only because their first experience of queerness will likely be informed by media) but those people mostly seem to be sad, angry, or quite unfulfilled.  That is, they suffer from the same disease afflicting educated liberals globally.  But isn't being gay supposed to be fun?

Well, you have all but said that the idea of you and your partner raising a child together would be incompatible with the tenants of your broader political beliefs, so it doesn't really sound like you're having that much fun either.
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