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Ferguson97
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« on: January 18, 2024, 12:50:36 PM »

Texas doesn’t have a choice. Arrest the Governor for treason.
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« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2024, 04:56:47 PM »

New study: Texas’ undocumented immigrant population remained relatively stable in 2021 (Nov. 2023)
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Unauthorized immigrants make up 8% of Texas' workforce, second only to Nevada, according to the report’s labor force data.

In Texas, lawmakers don't mess with employers of undocumented workers (Dec. 2016)
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: Business interests rely on undocumented immigrant workers, while pro-immigrant activists fight to protect the labor rights of those facing abuse and exploitation. When the Chamber of Commerce and the American Civil Liberties Union are on the same side of an issue at the Capitol, they’re hard to beat.

“We know what an important part immigrant labor plays in Texas, and to suddenly wipe out large sectors ... would have a devastating impact on the Texas economy,” said Bill Hammond, head of the influential Texas Association of Business, the state’s top business advocacy group. “We need immigrant labor to do those tasks where not enough Americans will.”

To the best of my knowledge, there has been no change in how Texas handles illegal employers since the above article was run in 2016.

This isn't about "defending Texas borders", it's about the same thing it always is: white supremacists* insisting on their right to abuse and exploit others. (*You can call them "Nazis" or "slavers" or "Republicans"  but it's always the same ideas.)

If the ACLU is on the same side of an issue as the CoC, the ACLU needs to take a long look in the mirror.

What about you being on the same side of an issue as the GOP?
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« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2024, 11:26:44 PM »

Supporting first term Obama immigration policies doesn't put me anywhere near the GOP.

Obama's first term is over a decade old at this point. I don't know why you think that "this was the party consensus many years ago" is an argument that's going to convince me.

Obama didn't support same-sex marriage in his first term, but I don't think that you would argue against the idea that a Democrat opposing same-sex marriage in 2023 would be taking the GOP position on the issue. You certainly wouldn't frame it as "supporting first term Obama gay rights policies."

Why do you think borders are meaningless?

I don't. I just disagree with you on the purpose of borders. Borders are supposed keep out armies of enemy countries, not individuals seeking a better life for themselves.

Freedom of movement is a human right.
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« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2024, 11:47:14 PM »

Freedom of movement is a human right.
Freedom to leave is certainly a human right, but I don't think freedom to enter is.

Why?
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« Reply #4 on: January 19, 2024, 08:35:57 PM »

At the heart of it, if you want property ownership to be possible, then 'freedom to enter' needs hard and enforcable limits.

Why?
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