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Ferguson97
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« on: September 09, 2020, 10:06:15 AM »

Invocations of the primaries/"Won't change my [2020] vote, so irrelevant" are missing the point: if Biden is giving up on this now (and the out-of-hand dismissal of anonymous sources is interesting given the general reactions here to the Trump disparaging soldiers story), he's going to give up on even more in January. That doesn't mean people shouldn't vote for him in November, but beyond a certain point, diminishing efforts to produce incremental progress merely offset the rate of decline. If inequity continues to rise, there will be more room for another right-wing populist and they are unlikely to be as incompetent as Trump. The less prepared Biden is to follow his own promises, the less his almost inevitably more popular agenda will matter come election day 2024.

Of course it's imperative to beat Trump, but giving up on reforms is only laying the foundations for Hawley 2024.

President Sanders is far more likely to lead to President Hawley than a President Biden is
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« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2020, 12:42:49 AM »


Well, he had 36 years in the Senate and 8 years as VP, so I think we have a good idea.

It's totally impossible for anyone to ever change their mind over the course of 50 years.
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« Reply #2 on: September 11, 2020, 08:12:29 PM »

Ever since recent events (starting with Kamala Harris being selected as VP), I've begun to sympathize with the jferns of the world, who are willing to vote third-party in their safe blue states. To put it bluntly, the actions of the establishment have undone all of the progress they've tried to make in the last four years, and Biden has been complacent in it.

I don't have this problem with the NHDP. I think they've done a great job at unifying with progressives. Berniecrats like Mark MacKenzie, Mindi Messmer, and Andru Volinsky have had key roles in the primary. Good progressives who aren't explicitly aligned with the movement like Molly Kelly, Dan Feltes, and Rebecca Perkins Kwoka are also seen as key assets. They don't take sides based on ideological concerns, and if you beat the establishment's candidate, they'll welcome you in as a part of the team anyway.

I've spoken at length about Kamala Harris. To say the least, I was vehemently opposed to her nomination. While I realize the potential she brings to the ticket, I think she's an incompetent politician who failed upward, and I also don't believe she's a unifying figure in the party. Since then, the DNC has doubled down on marginalizing with the left and allying with the right.

Nancy Pelosi has decided to break her no-incumbent stance and endorse Joe Kennedy's failed campaign to primary Ed Markey. She says it's all an attempt to back her caucus, but that's a lie. When Tim Walz ran for governor, Pelosi stayed out. When Loretta Sanchez ran for Senate against a powerful incumbent, Pelosi didn't take sides. When Colleen Hanabusa was in the middle of a competitive primary, and needed her Speaker's endorsement, she didn't answer the call. Twice. And twice, Colleen Hanabusa lost.

Either you take Pelosi's word at face-value, and she endorsed Kennedy due to her personal connections, or she endorsed because Markey was getting too close to The Undesirables. Given how a key piece of Kennedy's gameplan was to tie her to The Bernie People, I'm more willing to believe the latter.

The convention was disgusting. Sure, you have great moments, like Michelle Obama, Ady Barkan, and the Bidens themselves, but it gets bad when you realize there were no leftist voices besides Warren, Barkan, and Bernie. Actually, the original plan was to shelf Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. Like it or not, she's an impeccable woman who can motivate the marginalized. If it weren't for Bernie, she would have no role.

But of course, they roll out the red carpet for John Kasich to attack her in the press conference before his speech, and he does not answer to it.

Admittedly I overblew the roll call controversy. Looking back at the names, I only found one other controversial name aside from Fred Guttenberg and John Lynch. If they aren't leftists, they are at least pragmatic. But there is some truth to what I said. I don't think it's controversial to say that people who would vote third-party in a swing state - no matter who the nominee is - have no place at the convention. I think we can all agree that those who outright endorsed Republicans should be persona non grata. I especially think that those who endorse neo-Nazis over left-wing Democrats have no place in the party.

This story may not seem much, but the drip-drip of similar stories, combined with everything the DNC has done, backs it up. From Ted Kaufman's austerity comments to Biden's own "nothing will change" leak, it only backs up the attitudes I've seen in the Democratic Party. The center (or, in recent years, the right) is welcomed into the party with open arms and hearts. The Democratic establishment caters to their every whim and need in order to chase their votes. If Meghan McCain and SE Cupp hold their votes hostage in exchange for a less progressive VP nominee, then we should listen to them.

But for the left? We don't have to worry about them. Give them some symbolic representation and lip service. They don't need to be triangulated to, because they'll just Vote Blue No Matter Who like good little girls and boys! What are they gonna do about it - vote for Trump?

With Democrats being more like MacArthur and Alben than jdb or R2D2, and the left becoming ever-more aware that the party is marginalizing them (and that's the most generous assertion I can make), can you blame them for werewolfing and voting third-party?

And this isn't coming from the jferns and HockeyDudes of the world. This is coming from the guy responsible for "Silence, Republican". The Democratic establishment has turned "I'm going to fight for our future nominee with the same energy I fought for Bernie" into "I don't like it, but I have to vote for him to stop Trump." I thought he would unify. He chose to double down on marginalizing the left and appeasing the unappeasable.

Six months ago, I was dunking on people for voting for not voting for Biden. Now, the only reason I'm 100% behind him is because I'm in a swing state. And if people like me are starting to lose faith in the Democratic Party, then it'll be even worse in 2022 or 2024 after another 2 years of the same failed policies that gave us Trump.

What specifically are you looking for the Democratic Party to do to appease the left?
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