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Chuck Hagel 08
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« on: June 14, 2008, 01:35:55 PM »

//Abortion
Agree
//Balanced Budget
Agree
//Business Tax
Agree
//Education
Disagree, the government shouldn't be involved in education at all
//Energy
Disagree, let consumers decide what fuel to use
//Environment
Disagree, environmental protection should consist of eliminating public lands
//Gun Control
Agree
//Health Care
Disagree, the key to affordable health care is the eliminate third-party payers, not increase them
//Homeland Security
Agree
//Immigration
Disagree, freedom of movement should not be infringed
//Iran
Disagree, diplomacy and sanctions shouldn't be necessary, Iran doesn't pose a threat to us
//Iraq War
Agree
//Trade
Disagree, abolish NAFTA in favor of unrestricted free trade
//Personal Tax
Disagree, balance the budget by significantly cutting taxes and spending
//Same Sex Marriage
Disagree, the state shouldn't be involved in marriage at all
//Social Security
Agree
//Unions
Agree
//War on Terror
Agree
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Chuck Hagel 08
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« Reply #1 on: June 16, 2008, 07:01:11 PM »

I don't want to hijack yet another thread, so this will be my only reply:

//Abortion
Agree
//Balanced Budget
Agree
//Business Tax
Agree
//Education
Disagree, the government shouldn't be involved in education at all

If the government doesn't provide education then a lot of people simply won't be able to afford the private schools or homeschooling. We'll stop being a 1st world country.

Even though many third-world countries have government-funded education?

//Energy
Disagree, let consumers decide what fuel to use

Consumers can't do that if companies aren't developing it fast enough.

If there is consumer demand for alternative fuel, companies will make it. However, there are no guarentees as to how long that will take.

//Environment
Disagree, environmental protection should consist of eliminating public lands

That won't do anything.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tragedy_of_the_commons

//Gun Control
Agree
//Health Care
Disagree, the key to affordable health care is the eliminate third-party payers, not increase them

Actually I agree that would reduce the costs probably, but it would leave a lot of people without coverage.


Does it matter if people don't have coverage for non-fatal conditions? Third-party payers providing 'insurance' for elective procedures and conditions that aren't serious is what's driving prices up.

//Homeland Security
Agree
//Immigration
Disagree, freedom of movement should not be infringed

We wouldn't be able to handle all of the people that would flock here though, and a lot of them would introduce diseases that we otherwise screen out. We're already seeing diseases like TB becoming more prevalent again.


I didn't say immigrants would be free to move on private property, and I doubt property woners would allow people with serious contagious diseases to come in. Plus, isn't a good for the economy to have all those people now part of the labor market. Could you imagine how much food and construction prices would drop?

//Iran
Disagree, diplomacy and sanctions shouldn't be necessary, Iran doesn't pose a threat to us

I agree that it's not directly threatening us, but it's a powder keg situation would could destabilize the Middle East and our economy by association.


If we were not in the Middle East in the first place, it wouldn't affect our economy.

//Iraq War
Agree
//Trade
Disagree, abolish NAFTA in favor of unrestricted free trade

Unrestricted trade would just lead to more unsafe goods and companies like Metalclad dumping toxic waste in people's drinking water.


By trade, I was referring to voluntary trade. Polluting is a crime that would be punishable. Also, consumers aren't going to buy unsafe products, and thus they will not be sucessful on the market.

//Personal Tax
Disagree, balance the budget by significantly cutting taxes and spending

Disagree on pragmatic and ideological grounds.

//Same Sex Marriage
Disagree, the state shouldn't be involved in marriage at all

Actually in theory I agree, it's just unlikely to ever be done that way IRL.

//Social Security
Agree
//Unions
Agree
//War on Terror
Agree


My utopia would actually be anarcho-capitalist, I just favor moderate classical liberalism because people aren't ready for that right now IMO.


I have no problem with that. I respect your views and hopefully with time you will see the light. You are more polite than other posters on here.
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Chuck Hagel 08
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« Reply #2 on: June 23, 2008, 02:45:14 PM »

I have no problem with that. I respect your views and hopefully with time you will see the light. You are more polite than other posters on here.

Hope I'm not being referred to. Tongue

Not as much as others. As least you take the time to debate my arguments, rather than simply mocking them.
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Chuck Hagel 08
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« Reply #3 on: June 23, 2008, 07:22:13 PM »

I never considered you much of a Democrat, you'd fit better somewhere else IMHO
Other than the Reform Party I can't really think of any other group that comes close.
You'd do alright in the LP
No I wouldn't, they're radicals. They support stuff like abolishing the income tax and child labor laws (well at least they favored the last one at one point).

And you point is...?
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