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« Reply #25 on: April 18, 2022, 02:27:54 PM »

I mean, Melenchon’s movement is propped up by most of the Trotskyist elements which engaged in entryism into PS and local machines that split apart. It’s going to be a bloody showdown for the scraps, but there should be enough to sustain the movement as the leader among the nominally left parties. It’s not like other personalist machines like Mahathir’s UNMO or Bibi’s Likud collapsed after their leader got out of the picture in power or in leadership.

Melenchon’s greatest asset, also, is that he is melenchon and comes with being as much of a stubborn @$$ as some second-generation diaspora’s intellectual-minded progeny. Say what you want, but he does represent the working class Maghrebis, French intellectuals, and opportunistic community leaders to build a solid coalition.
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« Reply #26 on: April 18, 2022, 03:41:30 PM »

Quattennes is pretty cute, so I could be amenable in backing him if he gets the leadership role over Ruffin

What are the general profiles of him and the other contenders aside from Ruffin?
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« Reply #27 on: April 18, 2022, 07:15:37 PM »

Now Euro elections do cause weird results given the people turning out differ and are usually lower than in national elections, but in a country as centralized as France I don’t think local elections have the same weight to them. EU elections, I am assuming with good reason, that many with support for melenchon do not even turn out for hatred and displeasure of the EU.

That Melenchon’s “base”, about 15-17% of the electorate, is larger than the rest of the French Left combined and is more “loyal” ratio wise then any other candidate speaks to how efficiently organized they actually are.

The French EELV, quite frankly, cannot see any more room to grow with the existence of Macron. There is both not enough of well-off bohemians in France to grow in power relative to countries like Germany or Austria and a relative failure in integrating the immigrant elites to grow, which is less on Macron. I suspect the few lefty holdouts that bring us people like Sandrine to exit shortly and head for better pastures, like Macron for the most part.

The LFI is here to stay, and given where they are in power or have leverage they don’t currently act like PS/Mitterrand 2.0 for the sake of continuing on in gaining power, they are the dominant faction—end of story.
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« Reply #28 on: April 24, 2022, 10:52:57 AM »

This is not a competitive election lol.
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