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« Reply #75 on: January 24, 2020, 01:24:37 PM »
« edited: January 24, 2020, 01:36:26 PM by PSOL »

Remember that it takes around 10% of the current membership to request a referendum, so rounding upward it takes three people.

I PSOL request a referendum in which if the referendums to bring into force the Forced Labor Isn't Good Amendment is failed to be ratified in any of the regions, the Atlasian Coalition of Labor Occupation shall enter a regional strike.
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« Reply #76 on: January 24, 2020, 04:59:42 PM »

Love the support presented here. I’ll write up a referendum for 12:00AM Central Time.

On more recent matters, it seems we forgot to endorse Tim Turner and West Midlander for the Southern CoD. They are endorsed for their proven legislative work in office already.
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« Reply #77 on: January 24, 2020, 09:07:41 PM »
« Edited: January 24, 2020, 09:36:31 PM by PSOL »

And so you shall be. That leaves us needing one more member to crack to 25, a good thing seeing as we might go on strike in at least one region soon.

Edit: and lol on my part, the referendum doesn’t end until like 3 days from now.
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« Reply #78 on: January 25, 2020, 12:09:56 AM »

And without an active GM a "general strike" means absolutely nothing. And even if we did have an active GM, it would be entirely their decision whether such a strike would happen regardless.
It’s about the principle dude. Plus we’re getting a GM soon and when that happens I’ll submit the necessary documents to get this rolling as chair of an organization of 24 major players here.
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« Reply #79 on: January 25, 2020, 12:18:21 AM »

In light of the dropping out of such candidates like mb and Lakigigar, I urge everyone apart of this union to vote for Pericles. While his platform is not as favorable as some other candidates, his work on fighting for pro-labor legislation should not be discounted. Pericles is one of the many amazing coordinators of both legislation and politics that have shifted Atlasia in the right direction.

Ultimately this message should not be used to say that no matter what we should align with Labor, nor that bland progressives are our go too. We must ultimately continue riding on this vehicle until a better avenue arises.
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« Reply #80 on: January 25, 2020, 02:50:42 AM »

In light of voting nay on the referendum in the South, the endorsement of Spark for Southern CoD is hereby rescinded.
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« Reply #81 on: January 25, 2020, 07:31:35 PM »

I propose that Bagel23, the original founder of this organization, is endorsed in the CoD race.
He already is.
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« Reply #82 on: January 26, 2020, 05:13:16 PM »

I urge all those who live in the South to vote for Bagel23 as a first preference. It is clear that there might be two Federalist candidates, and Bagel23 as someone who has done much for the working man as a union leader and voter should be prioritized over the likes of the corrupt Spark, clear Federalist do-nothing delegate Reagante, and WB.
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« Reply #83 on: January 26, 2020, 07:07:05 PM »

I urge all those who live in the South to vote for Bagel23 as a first preference. It is clear that there might be two Federalist candidates, and Bagel23 as someone who has done much for the working man as a union leader and voter should be prioritized over the likes of the corrupt Spark, clear Federalist do-nothing delegate Reagante, and WB.
So ACLO members should vote for a right-wing candidate instead of the 4 left-wing candidates?
The immense contributions of Bagel23 to the many working Atlasians is enough to prefer him over such candidates like WB and all the austerity freaks of the right. While of course his party involvement and Transphobia could be a hindrance to the working class, his tenure as leader of the Foodstuffs Union is assurance enough that his heart is in the right place.
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« Reply #84 on: January 26, 2020, 07:30:35 PM »

Such a factor extends to the Governor race, in which I expect every Member in this union, and just generally the working class, to vote West_Midlander for Governor.
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« Reply #85 on: January 26, 2020, 09:50:25 PM »

Such a factor extends to the Governor race, in which I expect every Member in this union, and just generally the working class, to vote West_Midlander for Governor.

More smears from PSOL the man who was too gutless to even rate a bill designed to protect Transport jobs. Union Member voting for Muaddib can trust me to know who got him over the line.


"we swear by the Southern Cross to stand truly by each other and fight to defend our rights and liberties."
You say what you want to say porky, we’ll smoke you sooner or later.
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« Reply #86 on: January 26, 2020, 10:56:03 PM »

Such a factor extends to the Governor race, in which I expect every Member in this union, and just generally the working class, to vote West_Midlander for Governor.

More smears from PSOL the man who was too gutless to even rate a bill designed to protect Transport jobs. Union Member voting for Muaddib can trust me to know who got him over the line.


"we swear by the Southern Cross to stand truly by each other and fight to defend our rights and liberties."
You say what you want to say porky, we’ll smoke you sooner or later.

"Porky". So you're saying I actually have guts unlike yourself Wink
Not for long, we at the A.C.L.O. do like eating rich chitlins if left without a choice Smiley
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« Reply #87 on: January 27, 2020, 12:54:44 AM »

Such a factor extends to the Governor race, in which I expect every Member in this union, and just generally the working class, to vote West_Midlander for Governor.

More smears from PSOL the man who was too gutless to even rate a bill designed to protect Transport jobs. Union Member voting for Muaddib can trust me to know who got him over the line.


"we swear by the Southern Cross to stand truly by each other and fight to defend our rights and liberties."
You say what you want to say porky, we’ll smoke you sooner or later.

"Porky". So you're saying I actually have guts unlike yourself Wink
Not for long, we at the A.C.L.O. do like eating rich chitlins if left without a choice Smiley
Most of the A.C.L.O.'s members don't even come from working class backgrounds IRL.

Much like IRL, they're the cringey privileged liberals with no real world experience.
Can you keep your butthurt on Discord? This thread is not for the tools of bacon to spam it. Thanks. 

There will be a press release tomorrow summarizing the recent events and their importance to this organization.
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« Reply #88 on: January 27, 2020, 02:12:44 AM »

Such a factor extends to the Governor race, in which I expect every Member in this union, and just generally the working class, to vote West_Midlander for Governor.

More smears from PSOL the man who was too gutless to even rate a bill designed to protect Transport jobs. Union Member voting for Muaddib can trust me to know who got him over the line.


"we swear by the Southern Cross to stand truly by each other and fight to defend our rights and liberties."
You say what you want to say porky, we’ll smoke you sooner or later.

"Porky". So you're saying I actually have guts unlike yourself Wink
Not for long, we at the A.C.L.O. do like eating rich chitlins if left without a choice Smiley
Most of the A.C.L.O.'s members don't even come from working class backgrounds IRL.

Much like IRL, they're the cringey privileged liberals with no real world experience.
Can you keep your butthurt on Discord? This thread is not for the tools of bacon to spam it. Thanks. 

There will be a press release tomorrow summarizing the recent events and their importance to this organization.

Don't get mad at me for speaking the truth.
It pains me that I don’t know how to eye-roll at you using atlas commands. It would be so appropriate.
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« Reply #89 on: January 27, 2020, 02:51:11 AM »

PSOL can you point to a single post I have that is Anti Union?

I have fought to protect Southern Job and fought to get a Pro Union candidate and founder of this organisation elected as a delegate. Yet you lack the guts to even rate a job protection bill and obfuscate more than any elected politician. I made it clear that I would take Union votes into consideration in my attitude to legislation yet you still seek to smear me as antiunion and persona non grata for any union member to vote for. If I had been inclined I could have torpedoed the    
S.19.4-2: LABORER Act
which I did not.

In fact I assisted in getting this to a vote:
I motion for a vote on this legislation. Given that this bill has been on the floor for more than 72 hours (118 hours, in fact) and debate has halted for more than 24 hours (32, in fact).

I second the motion.

24 hours for objections.



Furthermore:
The workers united will never be defeated! I am not delaying a vote on this bill. I would like it noted

On a related note, I hope the the Transport Union sees the value of my own bill to protect Southern Transport Jobs, in spite of the fact that A.C.L.O. has decided not to advocate for the long term security of these jobs. I must say that is a most disappointing position for A.C.L.O. whose entire raison d'etre is about protecting workers. The LABORER Act, the bill we are currently debating, got an A+ from A.C.L.O. Maybe A.C.L.O. are just after the increased income they'd receive from these union dues? The LABORER Act regardless of it benefits will make less than a ₿€€'s D!¢K of difference to Transport industry workers in the medium to long term future if those jobs no longer exist due to automation! Plain and simple. The dignity of paid work, and a job well done are fundamental to well being.


Quote from: Ecclesiastes 5:18-20
18 I have seen what is best for people here on earth. They should eat and drink and enjoy their work, because the life God has given them on earth is short. 19 God gives some people the ability to enjoy the wealth and property he gives them, as well as the ability to accept their state in life and enjoy their work. 20 They do not worry about how short life is, because God keeps them busy with what they love to do.

Quote from: Peter Lalor, leader of the Ballarat Reform League


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I've done more for the workers of the South than you have. To borrow a quote from former ALP leader and Deputy PM Kim Beazley, you are a "myrmidon in the process of obfuscation" 
It’s not so much that you are anti-union as it is that West Midlander is more pro-union. If I’m being honest you probably will get a higher ranking then most on the right and even centrists if I can get some weighted rating system going on.
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« Reply #90 on: January 27, 2020, 01:26:02 PM »

So what would have been a major obstacle to the working class this regional election turned out to be a flop. The Right was further decimated and demoralized with the inability to make substantial gains in Lincoln and the South, meaning that the nominally Labor party can pass more legislation without resistance. Furthermore, thanks to abstentions and a few on the Right voting to ratify the referendum, we will not be holding demonstrations nor strikes. On the surface, it seems like we can all sleep easy.

However, not everything went our way. It was demonstrated that our endorsements take a secondary note to what will be pushed by the Labor Party, showing our limit of influence in Atlasia. Furthermore, Foodstuffs Union chair Bagel23 was narrowly defeated by a few votes. The takeaway of tonight is that we should not be reliant on the right to be beneficial to us, as they don’t either want to help us without major concessions or can’t due to their irrelevance in Atlasia as of late. The fact of the matter is that Labor is the only major partner we can work with at this time, and any attempt otherwise cannot fall into making workers dislike you.

What I see for the reason we couldn’t get the honorable Bagel23 into the CoD was due to one glaring issue: his public Transphobia. While the A.C.L.O. does not espouse a Democratic Centralist line, as evident by us having members with varying views, the majority of the Labor party and general electorate that would be willing to vote in Leftist candidates do have an unspoken line against bigotry. The point is that no matter how much work one puts in, it is a fatal error to target the many LGBT+ individuals who happen to be and are supported by the workers of Atlasia.

There are other glaring issues evident within the structure of this union. We have no scientific analytical process to rate candidates yet, basing it on memory and perception which has brought attacks on us by the Right. We also have weak participation by members, with perhaps 5 individuals contributing anything to this Union. The result is that public opinion has expectedly declined from our heyday after the 2nd National Assembly, with even our membership hovering around in the mid-twenties for a while. How then can we make an impact if we have no organization, no enthusiasm, and no participation? The solution is being formulated. At some point, I will devise a rough weight system to conduct our ratings taking into effect votes, public announcements, and policy actions to have something more professional. There are also thoughts that we should create a specialized Discord for this union. That should allow cross communication and collaboration to impact participation and enthusiasm. To seal the deal, I have asked the GM to provide data on major statistics that would help to understand where we are as a group.

We have a few months left before May Day, so that is enough time  to get our act together. We will have our third NA a week or two prior to formulate new changes to the makeup and organization of this union.

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« Reply #91 on: January 28, 2020, 07:42:26 PM »

So in light of recent events, I am calling for a petition to issue a national strike in solidarity with the Palestinians, lasting for as long as Atlasia cuts off relations with the ethnostate of Israel.

Who is with me!

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« Reply #92 on: January 29, 2020, 11:45:03 AM »

To the members of the Atlas Coalition of Labor Occupations,

Recent events have not been kind to this organization. From the glaring fact that we cannot act as an organized, unified bloc on votes, to a lack of input from members in this democratically-run organization, to an immense slowdown in membership. All of these have manifested themselves in different ways.

First, the lack of communication has impacted the effectiveness of the organization as a united bloc. Only a select few of actual members have done any of the actual work. Such inactivity has hampered the union from conducting its functions. When there was concern over bagel’s endorsement or actions on a possible strike, which I clearly see as a beneficial act of this organization, no one else acted to correct this error. This, in my opinion, can be clearly blamed on a lack of a strong core group of leadership to act on union functions. Other then me, Elcaspar, Bagel, and previously tack50; none of the elected leadership actually does or even wants their position. Even with 3 members, having this much responsibility to do all the work is far too daunting a task.

I care about this organization continuing as a pressure group that does a wide range of activities, and splitting now over my failure to truly turn the organization into such a force should not be the cause. That is why I am stepping down as ACLO chair immediately, and as my final act, am appointing both Elcaspar and Bagel23 as deputy vice chairs to guide us into a new National Assembly by Mid February. These two members, outside of doing much of the work, complement each other in strength and weaknesses. Elcaspar has done a swell job in researching, writing up press releases, and contacting members to act on in their roles. He is the highest ranking member in the core of the union, and thus is completely able to lead. He also is apart of the left of Labor, meaning that he will continue to provide differentiation between us and them. Bagel23 —in roles as a friend, campaigner, and leader of the Foodstuffs Union—also demonstrates much of the roles as leadership in his tenure. He knows how to run the more direct side of this union from someone who was there from the very beginning, something Elcaspar lacks. However, Bagel23 is a divisive figure, in totality due to his previous spats with members and his transphobia. We as an organization cannot survive with driving off members due to their qualities nor the egos of our leadership, even if the leader has his heart 70% of the time in the right place. Indeed, because that 30% weakens the unity of the working class, driving off many Transgender members and those who might view such a decision to be in disagreement with our statutes on protecting LGBT+ rights, including our equal affirmation of Trans Rights. In short, having both of them coordinate decisions together would ensure unity among a broad range of membership while still producing results in the quality members and Atlasia expect.

I’ve been somber for this long, yet I don’t wish to end off with depressing feelings. Look instead at what we accomplished under my tenure as chair together. We are the largest and most active SIG within Atlasia in recent history, and have received wide acclaim. We successfully managed to almost begin mobilization twice. And with my resignation, we will have gone through three successful phases, with each phase more successful then the last.

Let me just state that this doesn’t mean I won’t be active in the organization, nay, I will still contribute my share into improving this union as I see fit. I leave this position with three directives my eventual successor as chair must follow. First is cultivating an active core leadership that constitutes the leadership positions of this union. Second is affirm our independence from labor. The union and the Labor party May see eye to eye on similar goals, indeed that is why many of us are apart of labor, but in the event the party collapses or renegades from being on the right side of the working class, we must not become their willing stooges to rubber stamp their actions. Thirdly is to expand and modify the organization to have the ability to represent different fields and situations, in my preference having a tenants union, and to be more able to function more smoothly. Such work that needs to be done is faster and more common communication, like a specialized discord or other chat room, and a comprehensive analytical rating system for the candidates.

It was a great time being the chair of this organization, and I hope my successor improves on our current work. But for now, my position as chair is done.

Signed, former A.C.L.O. chair PSOL.



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« Reply #93 on: April 07, 2020, 02:21:13 PM »

I call upon a national strike in order to

  • Ensure that Farmworkers, undocumented or otherwise, have adequate protection and fair wages without threat of deportation, sickness, and death
  • Ensure that no retailers or clerical workers on the frontlines are left without adequate pay and accommodations during this crisis
  • Encourage that manufacturers make medical supplies with workers instead of forcing layoffs

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I also think it might be a good idea to create a medical workers union, perhaps the Medical Workers Alliance (MWA). We can’t exactly call another assembly, so let’s just add it in.

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« Reply #94 on: April 08, 2020, 04:33:51 PM »
« Edited: April 09, 2020, 10:29:34 AM by PSOL »

bump, do y’all not want to do this? Remember that it takes 1/10th of the membership saying yes to these changes in an appropriate timeframe to trigger a referendum.
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« Reply #95 on: April 09, 2020, 10:49:18 AM »

We need just one more person to trigger a referendum. I’m a bit confused on why at this time, seeing that unfair layoffs and Labour practices are happening, why this union is not seizing the opportunity here?
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« Reply #96 on: April 09, 2020, 05:46:42 PM »

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MARK ONE OF THE FOLLOWING.


[ X ] Aye

[  ] [Nay]

[  ] [Abstain]


To the Southern Governor, I would like to offer my perspective on why I think this strike should proceed. Firstly, the lack of support given to undocumented immigrants presents a real risk to the nation. The blatant disregard to their lives with no proper working procedure in place to prevent transmission is a danger to all of us. Undocumented Immigrants do not live in a neat corner away from the general populace, they live actually quite near other officially registered Atlasians. We cannot he thinking in an insular manner considering that these folks live and work among Atlasians with citizenship too. Secondly, these farmworkers, and most undocumented immigrants, pay into state and local taxes in an amount not ignorable. They deserve then to be compensated as well for their labour. Not just about taxes, but if we see a massive casualty count coupled with a lack of consumption, I don’t see how that is fiscally responsible or feasible either

I fully reject the idea that national industrial action would not be beneficial for the economy in the long run. If done carefully so as to meet with social distancing requirements, it would at most cause concessions from the business owner and the government rightfully owed to have the decency to survive in this pandemic, to those working or not. What is more egregious is the wage cuts, legal or otherwise, done by the business class to the workers on the frontlines that are the ones truly maintaining society at this time. The national and local governments have done much to rapidly respond, but in a way that doesn’t take into account all the situations going on or is bogged down due to legal obstruction. It would be worse for all of us if these workers come to work sick or destitute, preventing them from crucially participating in consumption and savings so as to not make a bad situation worse. I would like to add that to those wishing to participate but can’t due to medical conditions, a sickout would be a better strategy.

Medical professionals, in the fact that they are living through something that can be aptly described as a war, especially should be a major focus. Action taken on this front has no justification not to be taken if wages aren’t met, working conditions aren’t up to code, and supplies are lacking. The risk to the rest of us if private enterprises especially disregard the last two things is far more dangerous then a low intensity act like this.

I would like to point out that I live in the Fremont state of Alaska, not Illinois.
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« Reply #97 on: April 09, 2020, 06:14:33 PM »

Imagine being so privileged and selfish in your beliefs that you are willing to let innocent people suffer to push for a poorly timed strike.

Also a little fact about undocumented workers: they are not citizens. They should never be given benefits to treat them as if they are. They have no right to be here in the first place.
Imagine using this time to unfairly terminate employees and not compensate them for fighting a pandemic, while at some cases not providing ample PPE to work.

Unless you want a lot of more infections due to poor regulations on agricultural and other sectors mistreatments of undocumented immigrants, that could spread to Atlasian citizens mind you, any and all people should support this move.
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« Reply #98 on: April 09, 2020, 06:37:54 PM »

Imagine being so privileged and selfish in your beliefs that you are willing to let innocent people suffer to push for a poorly timed strike.

Also a little fact about undocumented workers: they are not citizens. They should never be given benefits to treat them as if they are. They have no right to be here in the first place.
Imagine using this time to unfairly terminate employees and not compensate them for fighting a pandemic, while at some cases not providing ample PPE to work.

Unless you want a lot of more infections due to poor regulations on agricultural and other sectors mistreatments of undocumented immigrants, that could spread to Atlasian citizens mind you, any and all people should support this move.

No one has been unfairly terminated in this pandemic. To say otherwise just shows how little you actually pay attention.  

Anyone who has lost their job in this pandemic has lost it because keeping their job and continuing to put people at risk by going to work causes more harm than good. You can't blame the employers for complying with orders put in place by those higher than them or taking necessary precautions to keep their employees and customers safe.

Also news flash: there is a shortage of supplies, including PPEs, everywhere. No amount of striking magically makes them appear for every essential employee everywhere. Many manufacturers that don't normally make those products are going out of their way to start making them. You don't need a strike to force them to do it. People are going out of their way to learn to make homemade masks to donate to essential workers. All you would be accomplishing by organizing a nationwide strike is take people out of those existing factories that have started making necessary supplies, and worsening those shortages in a time where they are desperately needed. I know you clearly don't have any real life work experience, and certainly don't have any experience as an essential worker, so I suggest educating yourself before pretending you have any knowledge about the situation aside from some opinions from far left bloggers you listened to that also don't have a clue what they are talking about.

As for the workers on farms, of course measures should take place to ensure they don't get sick or die, but protecting them from deportation? No, as I factually stated, they have no right to be here.

Statements of yours not even remotely based on how things work in the real world are why no one will ever take tankies seriously.
Yeah ok, keep fuming, just do it in your own office
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« Reply #99 on: April 09, 2020, 11:46:42 PM »

Nay

I don't think a strike is helpful at this stage. The federal government is working towards the goals that PSOL has set, and a strike would cause unnecessary disruption to the economy and health system.

In particular, the ACLO spirit has been shown with the strict conditions attached to financial relief in our stimulus bill-such as no layoffs, maintaining collective bargaining protections and no obscene bonuses or stock buybacks. I have also invoked the Defense Production Act to spur the manufacture of vital medical supplies.

Therefore, I hope that the ACLO can give us a chance to keep up the good work, rather than ignoring the successful approach my administration and the Labor Party are taking to address this crisis and protect the working people of Atlasia.
The members shall decide if that is worth it at the end of the voting period.
There also is the vastly glaring problem of undocumented persons and those without legal homes being left out of the discussion in the actions partaken recently. If all this is accommodated for, the strike will not happen or end quite quickly. The ball there is on the dual leadership of Bagel23 and Elcaspar.


Well first you have to register to be apart of this union. After that, I guess yeah, but it seems a bit quick since you just joined. There isn’t a rule barring you from doing so.
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