Atlasian Coalition Of Labor Occupations (A.C.L.O) Headquarters

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To be fair, Ninja has contacted me in the past to see what a hypothetical strike would look like. I don’t know the scale, obviously, but the union does exist.

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There is no precedent, codified or otherwise, in the bylaws agreed upon in the 2nd National Assembly. The decision is clearly in the hands of the chairs of this organization, of which Elcaspar and bagel23 are interim for-chairs.

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Seeing as there's strong division here, and we need a tiebreaker anyways, I'll change my vote to "No," when I first voted for this, I thought that there was a good case for it, but now I think it's a bad idea to hold a strike in a crisis, so I don't think that this is a good idea.

Kind of too late and outside of your hands. It’s all within Bagel23’s hands.

Edit: There sure is a crisis of underpaid workers being threatened with deportation, thus scaring them from getting tested. There’s a crisis of medical workers on the frontlines of a war, but compensated diddly squat and without proper PPE. There’s definitely a crisis of people unfairly terminated to preserve profits instead of for the common good. Those are all part of the real crisis this pandemic has brought. If the Labor party Apparatchik, Jimmy Von Strasser, and West “Kerensky” Midlander disagree, then so be it, but we operate under an organized yet decentralized, democratic principle for the Atlasian worker.

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I know we did not give out endorsements, but it would be foolish to not vote for one of our interim co chairs and Thumb21, who have worked hard to fight for the working class during this crisis. It would also be foolish to not vote MB and straight ticket Labor in the South, considering the catastrophe the WM Governorship has been.

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Ok Kerensky

I know we did not give out endorsements, but it would be foolish to not vote for one of our interim co chairs and Thumb21, who have worked hard to fight for the working class during this crisis. It would also be foolish to not vote MB and straight ticket Labor in the South, considering the catastrophe the WM Gover

Cite examples or GTFO

My entire monologue in my office for one.

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I have nothing, I'm just being a normal Labor shill with no facts to back it.

Ok, thanks for clarifying.

Why so triggered? What could I have done to cause such fumigation?!

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I can't handle being rightfully called out.

I'm perfectly fine. However, you seem to be the one that needs the help:

I’m feeling better, thanks for the concern. How about you though? It seems my pale of water is having an opposite effect, VVitch, your collapsing in on yourself. Your liquified remains are just melting on the floor, exposing that your body is filled with nothing but hate and spite. I do hope for the best though

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Is it really a surprise that a workers organisation would usually side with the Labor Party, when the Labor Party usually sides with the interests of the workers?

The Labor party response has been lukewarm to the working class of Atlasia. Other then sloshing money around, there has been little work on wages and employment concerns until the vote to strike occurred. Furthermore, undocumented workers and those without a fixed location of legal residence have not had their concerns addressed.

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For an irrelevant organization, the Atlasian Coalition of Labour Occupations sure seems to attract the ire of major ACP member fhtagn. The drive in her is unparalleled against us, perhaps even reminiscent of the feud with Pericles before his ascension to the Presidency.

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The deal is still on if you want it. 3 hours away from anything Atlas with me. It would cool us both down after all; make us less ornery. Remember, everything is easier if you do it with a peer

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If the only thing the Atlas right can go against the facts and logic presented here is personal attacks, no wonder they’ve been failing so hard lately outside the South.

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If the only thing the Atlas right can go against the facts and logic presented here is personal attacks, no wonder they’ve been failing so hard lately outside the South.

Are you now Ben ShaPSOL?

Sure!

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You knuckle heads got me in trouble with Virginia.


If you want a Kalwejt style moderator, I can oblige you, just remember one just doesn't get Kalwejted when it is convenient.

When you startle a bull, expect to face the full brunt of the horns—A paraphrase of YT

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You knuckle heads got me in trouble with Virginia.


If you want a Kalwejt style moderator, I can oblige you, just remember one just doesn't get Kalwejted when it is convenient.

When you startle a bull, expect to face the full brunt of the horns—A paraphrase of YT

You guys need to cool your jets in this thread and stop with the personal attacks.

Then maybe such attacks and libelous drivel shouldn’t be hurled at me. I’m not the man to let someone have the last word.

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I’m not the man...

Nuff said.

Ok bogan

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I would like to join.

And so you shall

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We hit 25 members!!!! yay

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MEMBERS

Jimmy7812
Speaker YE
Interim Co-Chair Prolocutor Bagel23
politicalmasta73
tack50
jk2020
JGibson
thumb21
Pericles
FM Scott
Ishan
Peanut
MB
bruhgmger2
Interim Co-Chair Elcaspar
Pragma__TNAG
S019
WB
Lakigigar
Peebs
arjavrawal
West_Midlander
Lourdes
Gracile
Leinad
Razze
PSOL

21 L/P+ members
3 Federalists
1 Independent
Anyone else wanna join?

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Anyway, here’s the official guidelines since the 2nd National Assembly:

A.C.L.O Guidelines since the  2^nd National Assembly.

SECTION I: Organizational Purpose

1. The Atlasian Coalition of Labor Occupations is founded on the principles to create a better society for Atlasia, one that organizes itself and believes in the following core guidelines to achieve said society that is
   a. Free of unjust working conditions.
   b. A less stratified society
   c. Offers a fair wage to all who work in the jurisdictions of this republic.

SECTION II: Current Goals for Atlasia

1. No worker should subject themselves to unfair working conditions
   a. A socially hostile environment in which they are subjected to
     I. Harassment of any kind
     II. Nonconsensual sexual provocations
     III. Other physical or mental abuse
   b. A physically unsafe work environment
   c. Discrimination must be eliminated from the workplace. No one should be treated differently in
       any aspect based on
      I. Creed
      II. Religion
      III. Ethnicity
      IIII. Class
      IIIII. Sexual orientation
      IIIIII. Gender identity
      IIIIIII. Criminal record
                1. Unless clear possibility of abuse in the occupational position is determined, putting     
                    themselves or others in relative danger
   d. Not offering a mandatory 2 month paternity leave is subject to be labeled as an unfair feature of
       the Atlasian workplace

2. Workers must be payed a living wage at minimum
   a. Regionally, you should be able to subsist on the wage
   b. Wages must be routinely adjusted for inflation

3. Workplace democracy must be established in the Republic of Atlasia
   a. At least 50% of Company Board members and/or shareholders must be allocated to the workers
   b. The dissolution of said company must first offer their assets to the workers

4. The Republic of Atlasia must guarantee basic human rights in general, including but not exclusive, to those pertinent to the working Atlasian population.
   a. A guarantee on universal healthcare
   b. A strong welfare state
   c. The existence of a national pension system
   d. The right to assembly
   e. The right to organize in any way the workers see fit

5. The A.C.L.O. is committed to the continued existence of humanity by the protection of the continued habitability of planet Earth, as the working population is often the most affected by ecosystem disturbances
   a. The A.C.L.O is committed to fight for the stakeholders in times of strain due to malicious profit- 
       seeking ultimately causing catastrophe.
   b. It is in the working people’s best interest to seek out job retraining programs into less
    environmentally costly industries if the workers are affected by job loss from environmental
    legislation.
6. Atlasia must strive to be at full employment
    a. Due to the increasing redundancy of several industries, the best way to solve them is to provide
        I. More in the way of welfare spending as workers transition into another job
        II. More investment into job retraining programs that are
            1. Less likely to be lost in the process of future automation
            2. Be in jobs that provide a livelihood

SECTION II: Tactics

1. The A.C.L.O will defend workers’ rights by being a proactive union
   a. The following actions taken in Atlasia will warrant an immediate strike
      I. Austerity policies
      II. Rollback on workers’ rights
      III. Poor working conditions
      IIII. Wage theft
      IIIII. Breaking of contractual obligations
      IIIIII. Harms done for excessive profit seeking onto local stakeholders.

2. There will be a routine bulletin for the purpose of
   a. Informing the workers of their rights
   b. Endorsements using a letter grading scale and short description of
       I. Politicians
       II. Legislation
       III. Impacted Referendums
   c. Reports are released in intervals of two weeks the latest, not counting emergency or high profile
       notifications

3. The union will increase awareness of our rights by conducting annual demonstrations
  on May 1^st

SECTION III: Organization

1. The union shall be organized into the several key branches based on occupational type
   a. Industrial Coalition Organization (I.C.O.)
   b. United Farmworkers
   c. Foodstuff Union
   d. Worker Transportation Alliance (W.T.A)
   c. Atlasian Society of Teamsters (A.S.T.)
   d. Confederation of Coders and Computational Engineers (C.C.C.E.)
   e. Mass Retail and Clerical Alliance
   f. Unified Screen Actor Guild and Writers Union of Atlasia (U.S.A.G.A.W.U.A.)
   g. Reporters Without Precariance (R.W.P)
   h. Mineral Extraction and Processing Occupations (M.E.P.O.)
   i. Medical Professional Union
   
 
2. Membership to the union shall require
   a. Living in the jurisdiction of the current Republic of Atlasia
   b. Not being in a management position
   c. Being clear of Far-Right and/or racist associations
   d. Not to having previously betray the principle of upholding the rights of the working populace
   e. No subverting the rights of the working class (I.e. crossing the picket line)
   f. Not having previously conducted notorious criminal behavior
   g. Having not committed abuse of fellow union members
   e. The breaking of any of these rules will warrant membership probation and expulsion if not
       opposed by a major portion of the body

3. The union shall conduct activities and inter-organization changes based on a popular vote on
   a. Union positions
   b. Major strikes
   c. Organizational guidelines
   d. Expelling members
      I. A referendum will be called upon by at least 10% of membership

4. Positions inside the union include
  a. Union Chairperson- Lead the Union. Determine Union agendas and actions. In national strikes,
      leads and acts as a delegate to meet national leadership. Can veto or stop union action unless
      overruled by an over 50% vote.
  b. Branch Leaders- Run the various organizations present in the A.C.L.O
  c. General Press Secretary- Create and format routinely the union’s bulletin board. Communicates
      with the public on Union issues.
   

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Know that small demonstrations will take place, as is in our bylaws. The only question is whether this will be a formal strike, in which bagel23 needs to break the tie already.

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Well I certainly don't support the strike. Not sure what actions to take (if any)

This is a democratically run organization. A vote is a vote, and to those members who don’t want to strike, well, then maybe you should have put forth a better case. Of course, you can always just sit out of it, but the rank-and-file and leadership are going ahead with this.

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There isn't a democratic mandate to go on strike, S019 said he wanted to change his vote. The decision to go on strike was made by bagel, not the members.

S019 should have voted nay then. He didn’t, and there was tons of time for concerned members to vote nay, so here we are. Look, by all accounts this was a contested vote, but rules are rules and we followed them in accordance to common sense.

We had time for debate when we brought forth the petition to start a vote, and even then some more on the voting itself, now we will be more prepared to go forward next time, with members now more aware of the weight and brevity of their vote.

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There isn't a democratic mandate to go on strike, S019 said he wanted to change his vote. The decision to go on strike was made by bagel, not the members.

S019 should have voted nay then. He didn’t, and there was tons of time for concerned members to vote nay, so here we are. Look, by all accounts this was a contested vote, but rules are rules and we followed them in accordance to common sense.

We had time for debate when we brought forth the petition to start a vote, and even then some more on the voting itself, now we will be more prepared to go forward next time, with members now more aware of the weight and brevity of their vote.

Support for the strike might have won on technicalities, but it doesn't change the fact that there isn't majority support for this among the members of the ACLO.

lol, so theoretically one can retract their vote in Atlasian elections after voting procedure or irl to vote for some other option? By all accounts, the strike was voted upon in a democratic fashion.

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There isn't a democratic mandate to go on strike, S019 said he wanted to change his vote. The decision to go on strike was made by bagel, not the members.

S019 should have voted nay then. He didn’t, and there was tons of time for concerned members to vote nay, so here we are. Look, by all accounts this was a contested vote, but rules are rules and we followed them in accordance to common sense.

We had time for debate when we brought forth the petition to start a vote, and even then some more on the voting itself, now we will be more prepared to go forward next time, with members now more aware of the weight and brevity of their vote.

Support for the strike might have won on technicalities, but it doesn't change the fact that there isn't majority support for this among the members of the ACLO.

lol, so theoretically one can retract their vote in Atlasian elections after voting procedure or irl to vote for some other option? By all accounts, the strike was voted upon in a democratic fashion.

My point is about the principle of democracy and the ACLO listening to its members, not the procedures of this vote. Obviously every election or referendum either national, or within an organisation needs to have rules that must be observed, I wasn't disputing that. My point was that there isn't a majority support for this strike among the members of the ACLO and this isn't something you've really addressed because your argument has been based entirely on rules and procedures, rather than what members of the union actually want. I think that if the ACLO wants to call itself a democratic organisation, it has to take into account the opinion of its members and it can't simply rely on procedural disputes.

If you don’t like the referendum results, we have a process to stop it. Just get 1/10 members (~3) to call another referendum. However, given the split, I expect things to go the same way.

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What exactly are your demands? It's not clear to me at all what this strike hopes to achieve.

The GM takes this strike seriously, which is all that is needed

I agree with the demands of the union, too little work has been done on these fronts in a timely manner.