Does Corzine deserve to get re-elected?

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I don't think Corzine going to win reelection as you everyone knows both Virgina and New Jersey hold their Governor's elections in the same year, and as everyone knows both of those state elected Republican Governors with a Democratic Presidents and both of those states elected Democratic Governors with Republican Presidents, So there is a good chance with trends that Corzine will be given the boot.

Because, you know, New Jersey voted for Bush in 2000 and 2004, and Virginia voted for Clinton in 1992 and 1996.

Corzine will coast to reelection. By New Jersey standards, he's wildly popular. (That, by the way, means having an approval rating over 50%.) I've even been won over to supporting him, and I was highly skeptical for a while. He's really not corrupt and has put some good reforms into place. It's unfortunate that he basically bought the election in 2005, but that doesn't necessarily mean he's a bad governor.

Here are some of his accomplishments:

Civil Unions, expect gay marriage within a year.
First budget in 6 years with no new taxes, tax increase
$2,300,000,000  in tax relief
20% reduction in property taxes in new budget
Ban on dual office holding
Strongest global warming bill in the country
Government transparency, "christmas tree" gifts (earmarks) available to view online
Stem Cell research referendum
Significant tax cut for low income families, described as "a double tax cut"

The ones in bold are certainly not accomplishments by my standards.  Aside from, the dual office ban has not taken effect, my property taxes are going up 24%, so really he does nothing according to your list

The ones in bold also happen to be supported by the overwhelming majority of New Jerseyans except for gay marriage which is just a majority. Those are only for this year so far. Also the ban on dual office holding was just signed into law or will be before the 30th. As for your property taxes, I doubt they went up 24% and you should expect your tax cut soon.
Since 1996, my property taxes have gone up by 50%, which is ridiculous. So I doubt yours have gone up by 24% in just one year.

I strongly advise you ask someone you know that lives in this area, because my taxes are going up 24%, although I doubt there is an article about it online.

There have been not increases in state (or federal) income tax, and the state is now offering a new property tax relief program. Sales tax was edged up, which I disagreed with, but only 1%. There is absolutely no way your taxes went up 24%; even if Rutherford raised taxes, local taxes are a pittance compared to overall taxes.

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Here are some of his accomplishments:

Civil Unions, expect gay marriage within a year.
First budget in 6 years with no new taxes, tax increase
$2,300,000,000  in tax relief
20% reduction in property taxes in new budget
Ban on dual office holding
Strongest global warming bill in the country
Government transparency, "christmas tree" gifts (earmarks) available to view online
Stem Cell research referendum
Significant tax cut for low income families, described as "a double tax cut"

The ones in bold are certainly not accomplishments by my standards.  Aside from, the dual office ban has not taken effect, my property taxes are going up 24%, so really he does nothing according to your list

The ones in bold also happen to be supported by the overwhelming majority of New Jerseyans except for gay marriage which is just a majority. Those are only for this year so far. Also the ban on dual office holding was just signed into law or will be before the 30th. As for your property taxes, I doubt they went up 24% and you should expect your tax cut soon.
Since 1996, my property taxes have gone up by 50%, which is ridiculous. So I doubt yours have gone up by 24% in just one year.

I strongly advise you ask someone you know that lives in this area, because my taxes are going up 24%, although I doubt there is an article about it online.

Thats about as likely to be true as you being a libertarian. 

Finally you acknowledge!  However, my property taxes are going up 24%, which I guess is not really a state issue, however, I don't need any new state taxes when my property taxes are like that.  Are the town's reassesment last year we have gone through the roof.  When my parents moved in in the late 80s, the taxes were about $4,000 and next year they will be about $14,000

So, taxes doubled (because $4000 in late 1980s dollars is about $7300 today) while local property values jumped around 400%. Sounds like your parents got a really good deal.

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1.  If they are paying $14,000 in property taxes the home is worth close to $1,000,000 if not more

Not necessarily.  My parents pay slightly less in property taxes ($12k+), and have a home valued at slightly more than $500,000.

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Doug Forrester was attacked in 2002 and 2005 for a similar single year tax hike when he was mayor of West Windsor -- it had to do with an emergency capital expense.  Agreed: 24% tax increases (and that's a MASSIVE increase) are almost exclusively caused by major -- and urgent -- issues where the township's hands are often tied.

Though honestly, through my research, I can't find a Bergen County town whose property taxes have jumped 24% in the last year.

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Being rich through home appreciation is not really being rich.

He has said previously that his home is worth more than $1,000,000.... even though in NJ standards, depending on where you live, you can be anywhere from lower to middle, middle class still. Not saying that it's better if they'd move, but NJ has places, within reasonable commute, to where he currently lives, where he can trade his $1,000,000 home for a home of greater size with more land, for at a minimum of $400,000. And it would be possible to move to this home with taxes at $6-8,000 in taxes.

No, $1,000,000 is never lower class, not even in the most expensive parts of Bergen and Somerset. Of course, I'd be mildly surprised to learn that where he lives has any houses at all valued at $1,000,000 or higher simply because they're all fairly small and very tightly packed in Rutherford.

I don't know exactly what the property values should be, but my middle-class house is worth around $600,000 (estimating by recent local sales; my parents actually own the house, though they don't live here, and they bought it for $100,000 in the 80s), and is probably in an area of higher property values than most of Rutherford.

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I agree: ownership of a $800,000 to 1,000,000 house, regardless of location in New Jersey, puts you firmly in the upper class.  Once you dip down closer to $500,000 or $600,000, you're now talking middle class—often upper middle class—because a lot of families just got to that point through decades of appreciation.

If a family got to $1,000,000 through decades of appreciation, well—they were rich to get that house in the first place.

How much you're house has become worth has nothing to do with how much a family makes. How much your house is worth doesnt determine your class either. There are tons of homes in NJ that you'd be surprised such a piece of crap was worth so much money. Your last point doesnt make sense either.  My cousin, who lives in an upperclass neighborhood in northern Bergen county in the Saddle River area, not saying which town for privacy reasons, paid a little over $100,000 for their home in the late 80s. Today the home is worth 1.25 million.They were not rich to begin with. However if someone bought a home where I live for $100,000 in 1989 or whatever, that house would probably be worth around $300,000.

I will grant that there are exceptions to every rule.  Regardless, for the vast majority of cases, my point holds true.

In most cases you are correct. Most people would sell there homes to make the money and be more financially stable at another house.

Again, I strongly disagree with you.  Most people get very attached to their hometowns.  Especially if they've been living there for 30+ years, which would almost have to be the case to have a million dollar home.

There isn't exactly a huge trend towards downsizing, except among retirees, and downsizing is a tradition there, anyway.

So then you agree that people will have a home that can be worth over a million and yet they can still be lower middle class? Because you just made the case.

Sorry, but it's not possible to live in the Saddle River area and be lower middle class. Maybe they aren't upper class, but a home worth $1,000,000, even in the extraordinarily overvalued Saddle River itself, is a larger-than-average one.

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The sad thing is the hypothetical $1,000,000 home we're talking about would likely be a tear down: whomever buys it is paying for the land.

A thirty or forty year old home isn't worth $6,000 a month.  I don't care how nice Saddle River is.

Speaking of low taxes, Saddle River's are among the lowest.  When you have no schools and a small police and fire force, that's not hard to do.

Well, yeah, when everyone can afford to send their kids to private schools, you don't need property taxes. Saddle River is also the in the top 50 wealthiest towns of significant size in the United States.

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The sad thing is the hypothetical $1,000,000 home we're talking about would likely be a tear down: whomever buys it is paying for the land.

A thirty or forty year old home isn't worth $6,000 a month.  I don't care how nice Saddle River is.

Speaking of low taxes, Saddle River's are among the lowest.  When you have no schools and a small police and fire force, that's not hard to do.

Well, yeah, when everyone can afford to send their kids to private schools, you don't need property taxes. Saddle River is also the 27th-wealthiest town in the United States.

True, also what is the difference in wealth between Saddle River and Upper Saddle River?  I drive through both on my way to my grandparent's house in Airmont, NY and I think the difference is huge.

Upper Saddle River is also wealthy, but not nearly so much so as Saddle River. Which is unfortunate, because I have never encountered a town name that sounded more posh than Upper Saddle River.

Per capita income, Saddle River: $85,934
Per capita income, Upper Saddle River: $57,239

Poverty is at 0.7% of the population in Upper Saddle River and at 3.6% in Saddle River, so the wealth is more evenly distributed in USR than in SR.

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Smash, it's real easy, you only like hiim because you have a good governor and don't have to deal with this retard

Sorry little boy, but just because someone has property tax relief which focuses on making those in the middle and working class lives easier as opposed to policies which make it easier for a spoiled rich kid's parents to buy him a nicer car and so that spoiled rich kid can buy what he wants without getting a job does not make the guy a retard.  You lost all credibility to bitch about Corzine when those were some of the reasons you gave for disliking him.

Those weren't reasons I gave for disliking him, those were reasons I gave for why taxes effected me, you should probably actually read what I say.  However, the point remains it's really easy to sit in NY and say you like this guy.

The problem is that you haven't actually given any reasons that you don't like him other than "OMG my taxes are going up!!!1111"