I was actually referring to some of the issues relating to the MLK/Johnson thing.
I agreed with Hillary that the Civil Rights movement would have had a MUCH harder time politically without Johnson as an ally - roughing up his own party.
We'll have to agree to disagree. I think, once the ground movement got underway, someone would have taken it up. In fact, there were other champions within both parties, and Johnson actually did not believe in Civil Rights until he spoke with Kennedy about it (Kennedy having pushed Civil Rights legislation prior to his assassination, so it wasn't even Johnson's "idea"). The only sense in which Johnson specifically benefited anyone politically was that he gave the Democrats a lock on the emergent black vote, but, if you're referring strictly to electoral success, it came at the expense of the Solid South.
Frankly, I don't know how you can read so deeply into any of these, and everyone's eyes deceive them. I saw a lot of annoyed sighing from Clinton last night; clearly she is being vain and vindictive.
I suppose we could say that the Civil Rights movement should thank whoever shot Kennedy, since that was the key thing that gave Johnson the coat-tails to do whatever he wanted. Johnson did BECOME a civil rights supporter, plus the Great Society programs were far far more ambitious than what Kennedy was planning.
I analyse all of them during debates, since the general opinion of Clinton around here verges on the hysterical I didn't feel the need to point here weaknesses out here. Body language is always fun to read. Whenever Clinton wants let rip at someone she starts to scribble, when Obama gets annoyed he does two things he either sends sharp quick glances or he remains a little too calm - his body almost compacts a little.
