Special Election megathread (5/21: CA-20)

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Literally why do people here hate Turner.

She's a pretty good fit for the district imo

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Literally why do people here hate Turner.

For a bit of a rundown, see:

ugh, can OH-11 Dems not get anyone better than Nina Turner?

What's wrong with Nina Turner? She's awesome.

I mean, she compared voting for Biden to literally "eating a bowl of sh*t," not-so-subtly encouraged people to vote for Jill Stein in 2016, & never even won a contested election (before this primary, that is). Even if one tends to agree with her more often than not on matters of policy, it can't be denied that she can quite literally put a bad taste in people's mouths.

To be fair, I think she said that voting for Biden was life eating half the bowl instead of the whole thing.

In no way does that somehow put the statement in a better light.

There's nothing wrong with it. There are/were many legitimate criticisms of Biden from the left. I say this as someone whose expectations Biden has surpassed, but I really dislike the sentiment from some people that Biden is immune from criticism. He is not the messiah and progressives are allowed to call him out.

Nowhere do I believe that I expressed any sentiments to the effect of implying or even outright stating that I believe that he's immune from criticism, that he's the messiah, &/or that progressives aren't allowed to call him out (though I'll fully admit to expressing my own personal opinion as somebody who disagreed with her "bowl of sh*t" statement that a technicality thereof didn't exactly make it look better from the perspective of somebody who already disagrees with it to begin with). But when SnowLabrador asked, "What's wrong with Nina Turner?," I offered in response a variety of valid reasons that many Democrats can have for not supporting her, just as there can be a variety of valid reasons - including that which both you & Calthrina950 pointed to - that many Democrats can have for supporting her. It's not like this is exactly a situation of mutual exclusivities here.

If that’s it, then the hate is way over blown and incredibly stupid

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Literally why do people here hate Turner.

They hate to see a girlboss winning

This seems true

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Literally why do people here hate Turner.

For a bit of a rundown, see:

ugh, can OH-11 Dems not get anyone better than Nina Turner?

What's wrong with Nina Turner? She's awesome.

I mean, she compared voting for Biden to literally "eating a bowl of sh*t," not-so-subtly encouraged people to vote for Jill Stein in 2016, & never even won a contested election (before this primary, that is). Even if one tends to agree with her more often than not on matters of policy, it can't be denied that she can quite literally put a bad taste in people's mouths.

To be fair, I think she said that voting for Biden was life eating half the bowl instead of the whole thing.

In no way does that somehow put the statement in a better light.

There's nothing wrong with it. There are/were many legitimate criticisms of Biden from the left. I say this as someone whose expectations Biden has surpassed, but I really dislike the sentiment from some people that Biden is immune from criticism. He is not the messiah and progressives are allowed to call him out.

Nowhere do I believe that I expressed any sentiments to the effect of implying or even outright stating that I believe that he's immune from criticism, that he's the messiah, &/or that progressives aren't allowed to call him out (though I'll fully admit to expressing my own personal opinion as somebody who disagreed with her "bowl of sh*t" statement that a technicality thereof didn't exactly make it look better from the perspective of somebody who already disagrees with it to begin with). But when SnowLabrador asked, "What's wrong with Nina Turner?," I offered in response a variety of valid reasons that many Democrats can have for not supporting her, just as there can be a variety of valid reasons - including that which both you & Calthrina950 pointed to - that many Democrats can have for supporting her. It's not like this is exactly a situation of mutual exclusivities here.

If that’s it, then the hate is way over blown and incredibly stupid

All else aside, it still seems a bit unfair to refer to some people's not exactly being thrilled about somebody who wasn't not okay with people voting for Jill Stein & thus indirectly helped to give Trump the White House in 2016 as "incredibly stupid," but sure, whatever floats your boat, I guess.

Broke: rehashing 2020

Woke: rehashing 2016

In all seriousness, she'll vote with the dems when she needs to. What she said is stupid, but that's one thing and considering atlas is losing their minds over her, its certainly an overreaction

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Literally why do people here hate Turner.

For a bit of a rundown, see:

ugh, can OH-11 Dems not get anyone better than Nina Turner?

What's wrong with Nina Turner? She's awesome.

I mean, she compared voting for Biden to literally "eating a bowl of sh*t," not-so-subtly encouraged people to vote for Jill Stein in 2016, & never even won a contested election (before this primary, that is). Even if one tends to agree with her more often than not on matters of policy, it can't be denied that she can quite literally put a bad taste in people's mouths.

To be fair, I think she said that voting for Biden was life eating half the bowl instead of the whole thing.

In no way does that somehow put the statement in a better light.

There's nothing wrong with it. There are/were many legitimate criticisms of Biden from the left. I say this as someone whose expectations Biden has surpassed, but I really dislike the sentiment from some people that Biden is immune from criticism. He is not the messiah and progressives are allowed to call him out.

Nowhere do I believe that I expressed any sentiments to the effect of implying or even outright stating that I believe that he's immune from criticism, that he's the messiah, &/or that progressives aren't allowed to call him out (though I'll fully admit to expressing my own personal opinion as somebody who disagreed with her "bowl of sh*t" statement that a technicality thereof didn't exactly make it look better from the perspective of somebody who already disagrees with it to begin with). But when SnowLabrador asked, "What's wrong with Nina Turner?," I offered in response a variety of valid reasons that many Democrats can have for not supporting her, just as there can be a variety of valid reasons - including that which both you & Calthrina950 pointed to - that many Democrats can have for supporting her. It's not like this is exactly a situation of mutual exclusivities here.

If that’s it, then the hate is way over blown and incredibly stupid

All else aside, it still seems a bit unfair to refer to some people's not exactly being thrilled about somebody who wasn't not okay with people voting for Jill Stein & thus indirectly helped to give Trump the White House in 2016 as "incredibly stupid," but sure, whatever floats your boat, I guess.

Broke: rehashing 2020

Woke: rehashing 2016

In all seriousness, she'll vote with the dems when she needs to. What she said is stupid, but that's one thing and considering atlas is losing their minds over her, its certainly an overreaction

This is quite the overstatement.

I've read this thread, people are

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https://twitter.com/KosichJohn/status/1390305904055046150

I can't believe Turner is becoming the established politician's favorite.

Why not?

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Has there been recent polling?

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Somehow this race gets worse