Bow Chicka Bow Wow Bill (Debating)

[DownWithTheLeft]

I am in full support, although I do suggest that the bill removes federal restrictions on the issue rather than set an age for the whole country

[DownWithTheLeft]

I am in full support, although I do suggest that the bill removes federal restrictions on the issue rather than set an age for the whole country

[DownWithTheLeft]

I urge the Senate to pass this bill. Anyone who opposes this is probably a hypocrite. We all looked at porn when we were under 18. And if you somehow managed to avoid it, then please understand that most teenagers do. Let's not be hypocrites here.

That doesn't make us hypocrites. I drink, I'm 18, and I support a 21 legal age.

Sorry dude but I think that does make you a hypocrit.  You support a restriction on others that you yourself don't subscribe to? 

[DownWithTheLeft]

I am in full support, although I do suggest that the bill removes federal restrictions on the issue rather than set an age for the whole country

[DownWithTheLeft]

I doubt it, the LGBT Dignity Bill seeked to limit freedom while this bill seeks to expand it

[DownWithTheLeft]

I doubt it, the LGBT Dignity Bill seeked to limit freedom while this bill seeks to expand it

So in your world a 14 year old should be allowed to buy porn, but if its gay porn his parents should be allowed to send him to an institution?

Yes, exactly.  Choices such be left to individuals and families, not the government.  Just because you may find the decision a family makes reprehensible, that does not mean the government can tell them they do not have the right to make that decision

[DownWithTheLeft]

Does the 14 year old have the right not to attend the insitution?

I assume they could petition for emancipation if they truly wished to, and given the circumstance they very well may get it

[DownWithTheLeft]

So in the case of sexuality the choice of the parent overrides that of the child unless the child petitions for emancipation but in the case of pornography the right of the child overides the wishes of the parent?

You are comparing apples to oranges.  Right now it is illegal, no matter what for the child to get porn.  The government is telling them cannot do it.  In this same instance, I would not want the government telling these kids they could not attend a camp to attempt to "cure"
 them from being gay. 

One bill expands government power, one decreases it.  It couldn't get more simple

[DownWithTheLeft]

I don't think parental authority had anything to do with the Supreme Court's ruling, there ruling has to do with the government and its role in certain matters.

[DownWithTheLeft]

I don't think parental authority had anything to do with the Supreme Court's ruling, there ruling has to do with the government and its role in certain matters.

'One of the fundamental rights that this Court recognizes is the right of parents to direct the upbringing and education of their children in the manner they see fit.  The origin of this right in the text of the Constitution may be found in the Article VI, Section 1 protections for freedom of speech and free exercise of religion and may also be read into the liberty protections of the due process clause found in Article VI, Section 2. '

So they recognize the important of free speech, sounds like there is no conflict here