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Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers
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« Reply #75 on: July 28, 2021, 04:40:25 PM »
« edited: July 28, 2021, 04:44:12 PM by Mr. Kanye West »


Yeah the Reconciliation package doesn't even have another round of 1400 Stimulus cheques for poor workers only give the Stimulus to people that have kids, but what about Seniors that have grown kids and people just starting off working 35 and under, forget about them

I have no problem with the Reconciliation package but it falls short and people on Medicare already have Dual coverage with Medicaid that pay for all of their medical coverage

That's how Medicare premium gets payed 150 is erase through Medicaid, so Ds are spending money that we already have

You can file for Disability at 55 and get on Medicare so no need to drop Medicare to 60 either
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« Reply #76 on: July 28, 2021, 05:19:12 PM »

Sinema is gonna pass the Reconciliation but she wants to pass it with 2T or 3T just like Blocking Filibuster reform, she wants to make sure she has the Final say in how VR is being done, but she is subjecting herself to a primary challenge when Ds without VR reform looses the H it's not if, it's when due to R gerrymandering, and when Rs Gerrymandered in 2010 we lost Strickland and Hagan OH and NC

Manchin is gonna loose anyways in 2024/ to a credible R challenger, he isn't blue dog he is a pet dog, he said DC Statehood must be an Amendment and DC Statehood would create wave insurance for Manchin in 2024

Sinema made it clear in her remarks that she supports Reconciliation but with less spending and Manchin said 2T anyways
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« Reply #77 on: July 28, 2021, 05:27:23 PM »

What words did Mcconnell not read into Sinema, she supports starting the Reconciliation package, but 3.5 isn't the final number she wants the D's can certainly cut the proposal, I would count my chickens
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« Reply #78 on: July 28, 2021, 07:33:18 PM »
« Edited: July 28, 2021, 07:36:27 PM by Mr. Kanye West »

It will help D's get elected but it falls way short of providing Another Stimulus check of 1400 to Seniors on SSA that need another stimulus check that don't have kids and 35 and under that don't have kids and the homeless or low income that don't have kids, what only people that are middle class get stimulus checks, NO, BUT IT IS A BRIGHT SPOT



ALSO, what's gonna bring down gas prices in the short term, this bill only affects climate change and unless you' curb fracking, we still gonna have Brushfires, oil drilling affects climate change

If COVID WAS OVER WE DONT NEED ANOTHER STIMULUS CHECK, BUT THE ORIGINAL 2k we got last time was based on Covid leaving and everyone getting back to work, well people still don't want to work those low skilled factory jobs and you can catch Covid
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« Reply #79 on: July 29, 2021, 10:32:31 AM »
« Edited: July 29, 2021, 10:35:33 AM by Mr. Kanye West »

Sinema doesn't support 3.5T in spending for Reconciliation, it's gonna be cut to her liking to 2T we have a debt ceiling coming up, that 3=5T is DOA

They say the Economy is back to pre Pandemic norms, they lie, they are closing all of Aldi stores, if anyone thinks that all the white color jobs that are being replaced, like Teaching jobs that were outsourced with blue collar factor jobs and all the store closings, they have another thing coming.

It will be back once we end Covid for good
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« Reply #80 on: July 29, 2021, 03:38:45 PM »

I have saved d this before the D's are giving us what we already have Dual coverage, Seniors get their premiums paid 144.00 a mnth by Medicaid, Medicaid pays for everything but a fee for prescription drugs, we already have that, but nice going for Seniors or Disabled that's incomes are too high to get Medicaid like 1300 and over

If you get less than 1200 in SSA benefits you qualify for Medicaid and Medicare, which you need in case you have to go to a nursing home, Medicare doesn't pay for long term care for nursing home, Medicaid does
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« Reply #81 on: August 01, 2021, 02:54:03 PM »

Does anyone think Pelosi's threat to hold the infrastructure bill hostage to a reconciliation package will hold up? It seems to me she will have to accept what both Sinema and Manchin are willing to accept, and if it drags out, she might face a discharge petition to at least get the infrastructure bill passed. I don't think the hold hostage approach will be popular (particular if interest and inflation begin to inch up), and the optics are terrible. Team Sanders and Pelosi at least in public seem to act as if they have cards to play in their deck, that I at least can't discern myself.  Am I missing something here?

Congress waits til the end of the ye to pay it's bills anyways there will be some sort of deal combined with the debt ceiling, we have gone thru this every yr, they gotta pass budget deal so the shutdown doesn't materialize in the Fall and it will happen with Reconciliation

These same Maverick Senators including Warmer and Cassidy were instrumental in passing stimulus plus an Omnibus spending bill last yr
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« Reply #82 on: August 07, 2021, 04:52:11 PM »

As long as the Biden DOJ leaves Trump alone, Trump is gonna continue to interfere in the politics, just like he is doing with Voter Suppression

They keep talking about Jan 6th Instead of Ukraine
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« Reply #83 on: August 08, 2021, 10:02:43 AM »
« Edited: August 08, 2021, 10:07:13 AM by Mr. Kanye West »

https://www.yahoo.com/news/manchin-m-done-extensions-federal-134547587.html

Manchin just said no to Federal Unemployment benefits extension

So, that puts a nail in coffin for more stimulus checks as well

Hopefully, if we get 55/45 Senate and 230 members in H which is possible in 500 not 90 days, with For the People's Act, we can get DC Statehood and Reparations and Sheila Jackson said if the Trifecta happens and a Supermajority Senate she will bring back Statehood and Reparations
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« Reply #84 on: August 08, 2021, 05:10:35 PM »
« Edited: August 08, 2021, 05:14:57 PM by Mr. Kanye West »

Obama put his heart and sole into passing Obamacare and the moderates were there like Robert C Byrd trying to get thru the Filibuster without the nuke option, notice when Byrd left, D's were able to alter the Filibuster

Obama without Filibuster reform had the same problem as Bil Clinton, trying to pass ACA without 60 votes it passed with the help of Arlen Specter

But, there wasn't a need for Climate control and there was talk of speed rail but Boehner and Mcconnell torpedoed it in 2014

The West Coast wasn't on fire like this, that why we continue to track and we need to cap it

Obama expanded oil drilling to continental shelf

Remember he won MO, MT , IN and OH, the oil states in 2008/12, because Green House wasn't a danger like it is now

No one is talking about ending fracking like Rs say, but reform it, to the Environment
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« Reply #85 on: August 08, 2021, 07:19:50 PM »
« Edited: August 08, 2021, 07:24:52 PM by Mr. Kanye West »

Most people already have Medicaid and in some instances if you work part time 16 K a yr you can get on Medicaid and there are free clinics

We already have Dual coverage between Medicare and Medicaid and all your dental and vision are paid for except hearing aids and false teeth

Most people lose teeth but not a mouthful unless you do drugs or smoke heavily or drink heavily

Unless you have a chronic illness alot of people go to free clinics or get on Medicaid low income

Also Medicaid pays the premium of Medicare that's how come there is dual coverage unless you you make over income 1400, bit if you are in a nursing home and over income me Medicaid pays for it again

The only person needing Public option are people working part time, the people not working have Medicaid

D's give you stuff that you already have except another 1400 Stimulus check one more just like 3 major cities have 15.00 minimum wage
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« Reply #86 on: August 09, 2021, 07:00:52 AM »
« Edited: August 09, 2021, 07:06:05 AM by Mr. Kanye West »

Lol, we already have Medicaid and Seniors as I said have dual coverage up to 1400 and get food stamps and everything else, Congress provided Ng More coverage on top of Medicare is for people whom are over income 1400, many seniors in my family already have Dual coverage because it's the only way they get their premiums paid for 150, unless they are over income

There isn't a need for Public option, I worked Part time and still qualified for Medicaid


The only thing Medicaid doesn't pay for for Seniors are false teeth, but who needs false teeth on molars, most people whom lose their teeth lose molars not front teeth that last a life time


If you are over income, you can't get Medicaid, but your nursing home is already paid for

Just like Minimum wage SF, NYC LAX and Chicago's poor blue collar Latinos and Blks migrate to already have 15, it's only in AL, NC and TX that have 10 due to Wasn't jobs not paying 15.00

T hi is is definitely a way for Politicians not to give us extended Unemployment benefits and another 1400

Just like Jan 6th is a way for Biden not to Prosecute Trump on Ukraine due to Hunter

Have you noticed Hunter never is seen like Chelsea or Trump kids, the only time you saw him was during the Inauguration

Poverty line to getting dual coverage is 1400 but in IL it's 120o due to cost of living
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« Reply #87 on: August 10, 2021, 10:59:57 AM »
« Edited: August 10, 2021, 11:03:10 AM by Mr. Kanye West »

Trump was so anti infrastructure it was ridiculous, his own policies of fracking hurt the environment, drill for oil everywhere

Climate change was going down, because Obama stopped drilling for oil everywhere

I haven't had the urge to watch the debates because my position is Extend Unemployment and UBI checks until Covid is over, this is next yrs budget anyways, but Manchin said he is done with Extension and CDC can't extend Eviction momentum anymore past Oct 3rd

It's no problem to enact next yrs budget for another UBI check to 35K and under one more time
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« Reply #88 on: August 10, 2021, 07:35:07 PM »

Who needs a hearing aid and you still have to pay for the frames of you want special frames which cost ,300, it just cover the exam and regular glasses

As far as dental cosmetic surgery isn't covered implants, or Endo crowns, where the root is out and they have to drill the bone

I just had a dental exam, some crowns won't fit unless you drill the bone and root is calsified, that won't be covered in Dentical
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« Reply #89 on: August 10, 2021, 09:10:10 PM »

I am nitpicking because D's are the poor people party not rich people

We aren't gonna get another Stimulus it's obvious or Extended Unemployment but if we have a Wave, Afro Americans will get Reparations due to Asian and Latinos while Rs have controlled Congress 16/20 yrs and Section 8 vouchers isn't a State programs it's a Federal knew very well locals let Latinos and Asians jump over Blacks due to Dreamers that's why we have 500K Homeless Blks and everyone else 200K Nationwide and most are in Cali due to warm weather that fled Winter in Rust belt

Reparations will repair that 5/7K checks from IRS SHEILA JACKSON LEE PROMISES IN ADDITIONAL TO DC STATEHOOD IF Ryan, Jackson or Beasley win with 54/46 Senate with the Trifecta, If we only get 52/48 Senate we will have the same problem with Tester with Sinema and Manchin, he doesn't want to rid the Senate of Filibuster, that's why Ds have targeted OH and NC
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« Reply #90 on: August 11, 2021, 12:47:18 PM »
« Edited: August 11, 2021, 12:52:04 PM by Mr. Kanye West »

Pelosi already said no infrastructure without Reconciliation and Manchin and Sinema said they support the beginning of process of Reconciliation but not 3.5T more like 2T

Every state has to make budget cuts except for Medicaid expansion and Food stamps and so does Congress and they didn't even pass anything on the debt Ceiling which is coming up in October

As I said before Seniors don't need Medicare expansion, they along with disabled already have Dual Coverage with Medicaid, pay for premiums on Medicare

Medicaid care for Dental and Vision but it doesn't pay for Prosthetic teeth, you can pay for out of pocket dental coverage and vision exam and non specialized glasses are covered but contacts and special frames are 300
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« Reply #91 on: August 11, 2021, 01:17:36 PM »

McConnell have always been against Medicare for all, he obstructed Obama on this in 2009 when Ds had 59 seats and throughout the whole administration, nothing has changed and Manchin is taking on Byrd what he did as a check on Obama too

Rs call it double dipping between Medicaid and Medicare, because you still qualify if you make less 1500 on your SSA check for food stamps and Medicaid, Seniors get food stamps too
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« Reply #92 on: August 11, 2021, 01:25:48 PM »

The budget didn't even address the debt ceiling, Rs put it in their 2017 proposal, that's why Manchin doesn't support it, abd the D's left Beto, TX D's hanging on VR, Merkley kept saying we are 1 or two issues away from resolving VR

At this point, it's a 8 seat gain for Rs in the H and 2 seat gain in the Senate and D's win a numerical number of Govs AZ, MD, MA, NH but lose KS
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« Reply #93 on: August 12, 2021, 02:53:07 PM »
« Edited: August 12, 2021, 03:02:39 PM by Mr. Kanye West »

Manchin already said he doesn't want a 3.5 T package and the debt ceiling is coming up, the reason why Biden has mediocre Approvals is that the Unemployment checks are being cut and 375 K people are still filing Unemployment benefits, and record bankruptcies and no new 140o Stimulus checks  that even Yang has called for, don't forget we don't have any 💰 to Extend Unemployment because Bernie still have in March people with PENSIONS THAT DIDNT NEED ANOTHER STIMULUS CHECKS

SENIORS ARE ALREADY AS I said before get Dental and Vision if you make less than 145o your u qualify for Medicaid

Medicare doesn't pay for NURSING HOMES, MEDICAID DOES ONLY

If you are OVER INCOME MEDICAID PAYS FOR SENIORS NURSING HOME BUT IF YOU ARENT IN A NURSING HOMES YOU HAVE TO PAY THE 150 PREMIUM

It's a great deal but it's not gonna Eradicate the Inflation, Student Loan Debt and the trouble of Afghanistan pulling out too early, the Rs are gonna demand that Biden stay in Afghanistan, he's not gonna be able to pull out

As a Senior you can opt out of Medicare and just get Medicaid, but Medicaid want you to have both they want you to pay a fee for your own prescription drugs
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« Reply #94 on: August 13, 2021, 09:13:18 AM »

Nancy Pelosi can't pass Reconciliation without the nine D, Reconciliation is DONE, SHE ONLY HAS 3 SEAT MAJORITY

Manchin already said he wont pass 3 T dollars he only opened the Reconciliation budget he said nothing about voting on 3T final passage anyways
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« Reply #95 on: August 13, 2021, 09:17:39 AM »
« Edited: August 13, 2021, 09:21:32 AM by Mr. Kanye West »

We have three blue Dogs Sinema, Tester and Sinema, and Tester isn't Liberal, he is a blue dog, he already says he stands with Manchin and Sinema and he said Gianforte was right to cancel 300 Unemployment benefits early

If D's have a 52(48 Senate and 220(215 H after 2022 D's are gonna have to convince Tester on Statehoid too but he is more likely than Manchin yes on Statehood

That's the most likely scenario after 2022 Election anyways, a NEUTRAL ELECTION

It's Nate Silver EC maps on You tube 2022 replicate 304 blue Wall 538
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« Reply #96 on: August 13, 2021, 01:35:13 PM »
« Edited: August 13, 2021, 01:39:39 PM by Mr. Kanye West »

I don't see how the Reconciliation passes without the moderate D's, because Pelosi doesn't have nine seats to spare on Reconciliation, Rs are uniform against it
She is gonna have to bend to moderates will because we are in the bet session where a Govt shutdown looks and they compromised with the same my derate Rs to pass the Stimulus last yr

Watch the infrastructure we I'll pass this year and Reconciliation idls gonna stall untill 2022, because of Debt Ceiling and Govt shutdown. They waited til 2021 to pass the full stimulus last time
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« Reply #97 on: August 13, 2021, 03:21:46 PM »

The D's are going after House Rs on the Commission, they're not Senators whom blocked the JT Commission why would they help D's pass Infrastructure
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« Reply #98 on: August 13, 2021, 03:39:22 PM »
« Edited: August 13, 2021, 03:44:46 PM by Mr. Kanye West »

Why would Pelosi remove them from Committees she's in a similar predicament as Schumer any of them 9 can become an R and 3 votes switch Control before Redistricting, D's can still win H control if we max gains in Cali, IL and NY over GA, NC, TX and FL

Infrastructure will pass these are the same R Senators that saved the Gov over Shutdown at the end of the yr 2020/and like Stimulus, the Reconciliation will wait till next yr

The Govt shut down is fast approaching and you don't want a shutdown if you are the Majority party in the House, especially a yr before an Election

Rs will probably help D's at the end pass infrastructure, it's only AOC squad that wants this Infrastructure combined with Reconciliation about 33 Members as enough Rs can give D's enough votes before Xmas not before then
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« Reply #99 on: August 13, 2021, 03:57:38 PM »



Dumb

The House GOP should offer to make up votes for the bipartisan bill to pass on its own if doing so means the Progressive Dem threatens to sink such a bill.  

Problem is just that House Republicans in general are much more nuts than Senate Republicans. The fact that even Mitch voted for the bill should convince few, but not that many I guess.

Yes, but its not like the Dem Progressive are that large in numbers either.

95 is a very large number when the margin-for-error here is 4.

We have a Govt shutdown on Xmas time, the Rs are gonna make Pelosi sweat, they will pass Infrastructure before the Govt shutdown, they did the samething last yr and Stimulus waited til 2021/Reconciliation will wait until 2022

It's mainly AOC squad like Cori Bush, AOC not wanting to negotiate and want the two bills passed at same time, infrastructure is an R initiative
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