MA-SEN Megathread: Senator Markey wins

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

RIP Joe Kennedy, it tells you how much money, a campaign can buy you. This isn't the first Kennedy loss, this is the first Congressional Kennedy loss

SGT Shriver, whom should of been the Prez nominee in 72 loses Veepstakes bid to Nixon Prez reelection, by Nixon breaking into DNC Headquarters and Watergate

Teddy loses to Carter whom, would have won Cali, just like RF would have in 1968 and would have beaten Reagan in 1980

Kathleen Kennedy Townsend loses in 2002 to Robert Ehlricn Gov

Arnold Schwarzenegger barely beats out Gray Davis in 2004, with sexual allegations, with Maria Shriver's help

Chris Kennedy loses to JB Pritzker in 2018 Dem primary for Gov

Joe Kennedy loses to Markey in 2020 MA primary

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

The system is already rigged, Trump beating Hillary should tell you all you need to know about politics and money

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Why do so many pretend that many Markey supporters werent/aren't also Biden supporters?

Yes, every Biden supporter on this forum were Markey supporters. One pollster pollsted they rather see Connor Lamb in office than Joe Kennedy and they said that Markey was the more progressive candidate, should Toomey retire in 2022.

I think it was Andy

The Biden supporters, didn't want Joe Kennedy due to the fact, he is a threat to Kamala Harris 2024 run for Prez should Biden run for only 1 term or if Biden serves 2 terms, Kamala Harris would be the nominee in 2028. That's obvious, this extinguishes his Prez aspirations.

Both Beto and Sinema were the campaign managers of Kennedy, this put a negative mark on their brand of politics

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Now, Markey can stay a Senator and stay 1 out a 100 and not do much productive in the Senate like he always do, thanks AOC, whom is a Latina, whom endorsed Markey over a Kennedy, which is unheard of, Latinos and AA are very supportive of Kennedys. Arnold Schwarzenegger and Cuomo whom are married into the Kennedy clan of Shriver and Kerry Kennedy with Cuomo, got the largest Latino support, due to being Kennedys

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Kennedy's loss, as noted above, means he is the first member of that family to ever lose an election in Massachusetts. And another thing-once his House term ends on January 3, 2021, it will be the first time in 74 years that no direct descendant of Joseph Kennedy Sr. will hold elected office anywhere in the United States. This doesn't count Amy Kennedy, Van Drew's opponent in New Jersey, who married into the family. Hopefully, the Kennedy dynasty will now find its way into the history books, like the Roosevelts and Tafts have.

We have George P Bush carrying on the terrible legacy of the Bushes. John Donley Adams tried running for office in 2017, but lost.

One of the Adams family tried to get into politics?

Honestly I wouldn't mind that.

The Adamses actually had a ton of staying power back in the day. Charles Francis Adams was US Minister to the UK during the Civil War, his grandson Charles Francis Adams III was Hoover's Secretary of the Navy, and Thomas Boylston Adams ran in the Democratic US Senate primary in Massachusetts in 1966 as an anti-Vietnam War candidate. So John Adams and his direct descendants participated in American politics for almost two hundred years. The Kennedys need to step up their game!

As to the thread topic, I'm obviously relieved that Markey won (and by a fairly convincing margin, too!), but I don't necessarily love that he cleaned up in MetroWest and behind the Tofu Curtain while losing Springfield, New Bedford, Fall River, Lowell, Lawrence, etc.

The general pattern seems to be that Markey won the wealthier, college-educated, upper class and middle class areas, while Kennedy dominated the poorer, minority heavy, working class and lower class areas. Why did this result happen? Does it provide evidence that upper-class Democratic voters are more "woke" and more deeply invested in progressive ideas, while working-class Democratic voters are less "woke" and more moderate? Or something else entirely? Given Markey's working class origins and Kennedy's status as the member of one of this country's most historically important political dynasties, it does seem to be an ironic result.

Kennedys have always done good with blue collar AA and Latinos due to the fact they have helped the poor and needy. That's why AOC can kiss any Prez aspirations, if there was any goodbye, the fact as a Latina she helped Markey, whom is despised by the AA community. She took Joe Kennedy's Prez aspirations down with her; consequently, Kamala Harris is Biden's heir apparent to the Prez either in 2024 or 2028

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Why do so many pretend that many Markey supporters werent/aren't also Biden supporters?

Hi there!

Me and my friends voted Markey and mostly hated Bernie. I’m embarrassed to see the rose Twitter bullying and football spiking online from Markey’s young fans.

Agree. I'm the biggest Biden hack, but would have voted for Markey, who is a sane progressive. But I don't hate Bernie at all.

AOC, partisanship helped Markey, she is a Latina, and Latinos and AA are usually Kennedy voters.  If she should run for Prez, she has no future, due to the fact AA wont forgive her for endorsing Markey over Kennedy as she took Kennedy's Prez aspoirations down with hers.  Kamala Harris is the heir apparent win or lose for Biden in 2024 or 2028

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

The Ds keep emailing me asking for donations and to phone bank, this closes my book on the Democratic party as far as donations is concerned, the way they treated Joe Kennedy, I will never send a cent or phone bank for them, unless I come into a lot of money, like being a Lawyer, since I am in Law School. Joe Kennedy was my reason for my large donation to the Dem party this year and I donated the most in 2012 as well.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Kennedy has a remote possiblity to be Prez, not in 2024, should Biden retire, but in 2028n , should he beat Baker or run for an open Gov seat and win.  Meanwhile take a meaningless Ambassadorship to Ireland.
 
Biden said he two different things, he says he wants to serve 2 terms on CBS but he said before he wants to serve only 1 term, we just don't know.  

AOC demolished any higher office expectations she had, even Senator, by endorsing Markey, where AA despises Markey in Harlem

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

A lot of this stuff about Pressley just seems off to me.

I would actually like it if she were to become a Senator, but I'm not sure why she would be a favorite against Kennedy or even all that competitive? I mean Kennedy lost this contest sure, but while trying to primary an incumbent, where he still got 44 percent. In an open-seat he wouldn't face the question of "why are you running" nor would he have divided local/state officials whose predisposition is to support their current Senator.

And "winning a primary against Pressley" doesn't seem like as much a killer come 2028 or 2032 or whenever he thought of running for President.

Why can't it be that he simply saw Markey as a weak incumbent and figured it was an opportunity to jump ahead by 6 or maybe even 12 years if he were to just wait his turn instead.

Kennedy was doing well and fundraising before Covid, he was consistently leading Markey in every poll. Then, Covid hit, and the ground swell back to Markey began and every poll flipped flop back to Markey. Covid definately had something to do with this race, it reestablished Markey as the Establishment candidate.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Hopefully, Warren goes for Treasury and Kennedy v Pressley primary, Kennedy would win

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Hopefully, Warren goes for Treasury and Kennedy v Pressley primary, Kennedy would win

About time you say something I like.

In my gut I kind of think he still would win but maybe I’m just being hopeful cause frankly he just lost to the biggest, most irrelevant loser there is in the Dem party. So who knows

Sorry, but just to point out the inaccuracy of this statement, it is Kennedy who is the loser here.

Dems are the reform party, but living under Daley corrupt leadership, Dems are a machine politics party as well. Daley was implicated in selling Truck drivers license for patronage Garbage Men Jobs and he didn't serve prison time, Blago, did, for trying to pick an AA for Senate, who would have ran for Prez after Obama, Jesse L Jackson Jr.

Markey v Kennedy replicates machine politics in Democratic politics. But Pressley probably will be Senaor from MA in the near future. Markey is not likeable, he is a machine politician like Richard J Daley SR and Richard M Daley Jr.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Yes, the Dems could have had a Kennedy in the Senate rather than a boring Markey and they chosed Markey

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

I think we were all shocked how much support Markey had with VBM and Early Voting and Joe Kennedy was the outsider and Markey was the machine politician, he won by such an overwhelmingly margin, that's why people that don't like Markey are disappointed.  White Females overwhelmingly went for Markey over Joe Kennedy, and Kennedys usuually do well with female voters

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

BEN DOWNING IS GONNA Be NEXT GOV OF MA

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

The reason why Joe Kennedy isn't running, for Gov, Warren is up again in 2024 and she may go to Cabinet, Joe Kennedy would face the same problem as last time, he would face Ben Downing whom has the same supporters and Markey but he is younger

Warren will be pressured to leave the Senate and go to Cabinet since the Senate map is a carbon copy of 2022

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

I don't see why people are now bsessed with Kennedy, there are better Ds than Joe Kennedy like Ben Downing whom will be the next Gov of MA