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« on: February 20, 2019, 10:48:03 PM »
« edited: August 10, 2019, 04:22:47 PM by Brittain33 »

I'm genuinely curious. He recently vetoed a tax cut plan by the WI GOP-controlled legislature in hopes that he can pass his middle-class tax relief plan, which I am doubtful will pass. In addition, Evers wants to decriminalize medical marijuana. How can he fulfill any of his campaign promises if the State Legislature isn't letting him?
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« Reply #1 on: February 20, 2019, 11:44:47 PM »

I think that if he doesn't bend/budge easily, he can slowly but surely turn some legislators in his favor by virtue of the court of public opinion. I believe this strategy could end up paying dividends by getting more Democrats elected to the state legislature in the next few years (which may eventually facilitate the demise of Act 10).

Good god, let's hope!
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« Reply #2 on: February 21, 2019, 12:34:07 PM »

Honestly, other than being able to force neutral redistricting maps, he won’t be able to do much. So maybe if he stays popular, a 2022 Senate run might be a better option for him and the party.

Why do you think that?
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« Reply #3 on: February 21, 2019, 12:34:28 PM »

He's DOA for 2022 if Trump loses the next presidential.
I'm surprised you continue to talk about this race given how little you knew about it last time.
Yeah, so the Blue Wave ended up being bigger than expected in this state and washed away Walker, but the GOP holds all the cards for the future in this state. Redistricting will go in their favour due to the courts being GOP-held. Furthermore, the trend is undeniable if Dems continue spitting on the working class and the rurals. The Driftless will match white rural Alabama in terms of GOP support in a decade. 

I can't even.....
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« Reply #4 on: February 21, 2019, 12:43:01 PM »

Honestly, other than being able to force neutral redistricting maps, he won’t be able to do much. So maybe if he stays popular, a 2022 Senate run might be a better option for him and the party.

Why do you think that?

A Senate seat in a swing state is 1000x more valuable than a lame duck governorship

I'd say with a Dem in the White House in 2022, any Wisconsin D in a D+5 or lower constituency will be having a rough election night.

Go away! You were wrong about the 2018 midterms, so what makes you think you have any credibility after that?
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« Reply #5 on: February 21, 2019, 12:51:41 PM »

Honestly, other than being able to force neutral redistricting maps, he won’t be able to do much. So maybe if he stays popular, a 2022 Senate run might be a better option for him and the party.

Why do you think that?

A Senate seat in a swing state is 1000x more valuable than a lame duck governorship

I'd say with a Dem in the White House in 2022, any Wisconsin D in a D+5 or lower constituency will be having a rough election night.

Go away!
Have fun with a GOP supermajority coming soon if the Dems continue ignoring and insulting the Driftless and the Northern part of your state. Pinning one's hopes on WOW turning Titanium D is frankly sad.  2018 was a fluke due to FoxConn spinning out of control and Walker distancing himself from Trump and you know it. 

2018 wasn't a fluke. Baldwin received unprecedented numbers in WOW. If a Dem is getting less than 60% in Ozaukee County, then I'd be worried. As for your theory about the driftless area, those rurals are rather atypical.

Then again, why am I even arguing with you? As MasterJedi said, you're wrong about everything anyway.
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« Reply #6 on: February 24, 2019, 06:17:02 PM »

Evers can get plenty of stuff done if he reminds Republicans that Ronald Reagan engaged in bipartisanship. GOP reps will then calmly assess the situation and agree that Evers is correct and engage in a level of bipartisanship not seen since the glorious 90s

I suppose.....
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« Reply #7 on: February 27, 2019, 02:07:30 AM »
« Edited: February 27, 2019, 02:19:26 AM by Scottholes 2.0 »

Tony Evers will be a one term governor that won't be able to get anything done. The GOP could have easily won the election if Scott Walker wasn't the nominee. I expect the state to flip red next gubernatorial election.

I have to respectfully disagree. I honestly thought the "Wisconsin will be gone for Democrats" narrative would die once Tony Evers and Tammy Baldwin won. Apparently I was wrong. I guess Evers had to beat an incumbent by 20 points for Wisconsin to not be considered a lost cause for Democrats.

After awhile, it gets really tiring having to remind people that Wisconsin is a purple state that was close in the 2000 and 2004 presidential elections.

I guess WI will always be an R wet dream.
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« Reply #8 on: February 27, 2019, 10:08:04 PM »

What are Evers' approval ratings right now ? Considering the GOP-controlled WI State Legislature wants to make life Hell for him.

According to the recent MU Law School Poll, Evers' approval rating is 41 percent, which was conducted not even a month after I took the oath of office. I expect it to climb a little.
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« Reply #9 on: July 31, 2019, 01:39:44 PM »

Seriously, watch the highly partisan State Supreme Court limit Evers' veto powers!

https://madison.com/wsj/news/local/govt-and-politics/conservative-group-files-lawsuit-to-limit-tony-evers-veto-power/article_9de9fe35-7895-59bb-96cf-bf2c98d96d4d.html
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« Reply #10 on: July 31, 2019, 05:29:25 PM »
« Edited: July 31, 2019, 05:33:19 PM by Scottholes 2.0 »

What is the current partisan lean of the 7 Wisconsin Supreme Court justices?

5-2 conservative. I don’t even know why Evers would want to run for a second term after this. I would just go for Senate in 2022 instead since being a Democratic Governor of Wisconsin is pointless
Uh Wisconsin Gov is literally one of the most powerful in the country.

Not with the Wisconsin GOP going all tanya Harding on Evers

It is really sad. I am getting ready to leave this damn state BEFORE November 2020!
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« Reply #11 on: July 31, 2019, 09:53:28 PM »

It is really sad. I am getting ready to leave this damn state BEFORE November 2020!
Surely the only chance is for Dem voters to stay for Nov 2020?

I suppose.
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« Reply #12 on: August 01, 2019, 11:30:36 AM »

It is really sad. I am getting ready to leave this damn state BEFORE November 2020!
Surely the only chance is for Dem voters to stay for Nov 2020?

He says this after each election, no need to worry.

"After every election"? I'm pretty sure the SCOTUS Race back in April was the only election in which I have ever said this.
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« Reply #13 on: August 03, 2019, 01:49:46 PM »

Is there any hint of Evers or the state GOP, you know, trying to govern the state together? Or do they just block each other from doing anything?

Also Wisconsin is a state where geography favors Rs quite heavily. Almost all of the D votes in the state are centered around Milwaukee and Madison. Any fair map would result in Rs getting more seats than they would based on proportional vote share. It is hard to see Dems regaining the majority in Wisconsin barring a huge wave or significant realignment.

I disagree.
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« Reply #14 on: August 06, 2019, 02:59:13 PM »

Is there any hint of Evers or the state GOP, you know, trying to govern the state together? Or do they just block each other from doing anything?

Also Wisconsin is a state where geography favors Rs quite heavily. Almost all of the D votes in the state are centered around Milwaukee and Madison. Any fair map would result in Rs getting more seats than they would based on proportional vote share. It is hard to see Dems regaining the majority in Wisconsin barring a huge wave or significant realignment.

LOL so not true.

Evers got 1,324,307 votes. He got 220,052 in Dane County and 262,124 in Milwaukee County. That leaves 842,131 votes outside those counties...or 63.6% of his total.

Thank you!
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