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BBD
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« on: September 02, 2018, 12:27:08 AM »

It's beyond obvious that the right-wing British mainstream media, in cahoots with the Israeli lobby, are constantly manufacturing and spinning little "scandals" to take Corbyn down. It's a no-win situation; no matter how much he does, there will always be more demanded of him.
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« Reply #1 on: September 02, 2018, 12:51:26 AM »

Well, he could start by actually doing something. Also. they're just using his own words and actions, they're not making those up.

What more can he do? He has already unnecessarily apologized, firmly stated his intent on rooting out any vestiges of intra-party "anti-semitism", but the media continues to criticize his every action, stir the pot, insinuate, and push an agenda that is intent on toppling him. Death by a thousand cuts, so to speak. If you've ever bothered glancing at headlines in UK newspapers and news sites, you should be able to see what that entails. The Israeli lobby will continue to push for the abrogation of criticism of the Israeli state, and tar and feather anyone who doesn't fit their utmost standard.
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« Reply #2 on: September 02, 2018, 01:17:31 AM »
« Edited: September 02, 2018, 01:21:25 AM by Bosporus Blues »

Let's see here...Corbyn was attacked by the right-wing media for attending a Passover event with the group Jewdas. Is it not anti-semitic in and of itself that the media insinuates that somehow, Jews that don't fit in with right-wing, Zionist positions aren't "real" Jews?

https://skwawkbox.org/2018/04/03/attacks-on-corbyn-for-spending-passover-with-the-wrong-jews-and-what-they-might-mean/

In your blog linked in your signature, you claim that the term "Nazi" is ridiculous when applied to such characters that promote rabid violence and genocide against Palestinians. I agree that perhaps that term shouldn't be used - what about fascist instead? Is that still anti-semitic?



It might also do you well to read up on the Israeli lobby and its long reach within the British government, especially within the Conservative Party. This article sums it up nicely.

https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2017/11/15/how-israel-lobby-works-in-britain.html

It certainly wouldn't be surprising if the Israeli government were somehow actively pushing propaganda onto the general populace of Western countries such as Great Britain, now, would it? Oh yes, everyone does it, but is that an excuse for the blatancy and fashion in which it occurs?

https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-news-from-elsewhere-23695896

Overall, I just find it sad that you've fully ingested and believe in this message being pushed onto you - there are undoubtedly many others in a similar boat. Just remember that, as a self-proclaimed socialist, based on your avatar, you should be more offended by the utter incompetence of May's administration and much more outraged by the unfettered Capital that threatens us as human beings than by phony "problems" in Labour, a party that has been reformed into a vehicle against capitalistic forces thanks very much to the prowess of Jeremy Corbyn. He is perceived by corporate, right-wing interests as a threat to this unsustainable, immoral, inhumane system, and that is why he has been smeared and targeted.




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BBD
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« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2018, 07:15:08 PM »

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« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2018, 11:38:59 PM »

ahahahaahh, right, it's the "deep state" that makes them say bigoted things, support bigoted people and go to events that celebrate murderous bigots. Roll Eyes  Do they expect people to keep buying their sh**t?  It's insane how poorly they've handled this.  Even if you're blind and stupid and don't think JC is a bigot, you can't be happy how he's handled it....right?  Unless you're bigot too of course, then you're going to say things like "it's the deep state" and "You can be anti-Israel without being anti-Semitic."   It's barely better than the non-bigots who'd just rather turn a blind eye to it all with a  "we shouldn't talk about this much because it's a 'serious' issue".

You'd have to be a bigot yourself or totally not care about bigotry against Jews to still vote for them at this point. 
Kind of like Republicans!

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« Reply #5 on: September 19, 2018, 11:50:42 PM »

there's the whataboutery!  We've been missing it the last few pages.

Do you deny that your label applies to the Tories? Or are you an unprincipled hypocrite?
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« Reply #6 on: September 20, 2018, 12:36:10 AM »
« Edited: September 20, 2018, 12:39:48 AM by Bosporus Blues »

there's the whataboutery!  We've been missing it the last few pages.

Do you deny that your label applies to the Tories? Or are you an unprincipled hypocrite?
I have no idea, are they as obviously racist as Labour is?  Being for secure borders is not racist in and of itself.  Are there pictures of their leader at a celebration for racist murderers?

Dunno, dead0, Tory MEPs being whipped into overwhelming support of a blatantly anti-semitic government seems to be obvious enough to me.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/amp/opinion/article-viktor-orbans-war-on-george-soros-and-hungarys-jews/

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https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/conservatives-victor-orban-hungary-eu-parliament-vote-mep-group-europe-a8535511.html

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Also, a side point: Pretty interesting that Netanyahu is so buddy buddy with Orban. Guess antisemitism is totally fine as long as you're a right-wing ally. And leftist Jews such as Soros aren't considered "real" Jews. Reminds me of the insane criticism blared through the British media of Jeremy Corbyn's Seder meeting with a leftist Jewish group. It would have been totally A-okay if it had been a right-wing group, though...no, wait, he would have still been criticized somehow or another.
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« Reply #7 on: September 20, 2018, 11:45:56 AM »


ahahahaahh, right, it's the "deep state" that makes them say bigoted things, support bigoted people and go to events that celebrate murderous bigots. Roll Eyes  Do they expect people to keep buying their sh**t?  It's insane how poorly they've handled this.  Even if you're blind and stupid and don't think JC is a bigot, you can't be happy how he's handled it....right?  Unless you're bigot too of course, then you're going to say things like "it's the deep state" and "You can be anti-Israel without being anti-Semitic."   It's barely better than the non-bigots who'd just rather turn a blind eye to it all with a  "we shouldn't talk about this much because it's a 'serious' issue".

You'd have to be a bigot yourself or totally not care about bigotry against Jews to still vote for them at this point.  Kind of like Republicans!

'Deep state'? Hes about an inch away from complaining about some Jewish Capital conspiracy to suppress him.

so...everybody in the eastern hemisphere is an anti-Semite, even the leader of Israel.....sheesh!

That DavidB quip about how in certain leftist eyes, the only
 true anti-Semitic action is criticizing  George Soros seems apt here.

It would probably do you and some of the others well to purchase a couple pairs of reading glasses.

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« Reply #8 on: October 04, 2018, 12:59:31 PM »

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« Reply #9 on: October 04, 2018, 11:58:40 PM »

Hahaha, keep on crying and whining in between your establishment bootlicking. You won't have any tears left for when he takes power.
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« Reply #10 on: October 05, 2018, 12:10:49 AM »

who are you talking to?  I don't see anybody here crying.  There is a lot of pointing and laughing at the bigots.  Are you projecting perhaps?

Don't worry dead0, you're just an innocent soul influenced by the mass media's depiction of Corbyn. Not your fault for falling for the lies that you've consumed.

Ray Goldfield, on the other hand, is a hack of an especially potent sort. He's beyond cure.

Anyway, it's just going to be very sweet seeing all the smear attacks on Corbyn fall apart. People are tired of being sent down the tunnel. The people of Britain will seek the light and vote for the man who's fit for the job.
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« Reply #11 on: October 15, 2018, 08:26:09 AM »



Shame

Are you blaming this on Labour?
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« Reply #12 on: October 15, 2018, 02:43:26 PM »
« Edited: October 15, 2018, 02:47:00 PM by Bosporus Blues »

^^ yes, many in the Jewish community are terrified by Corbyn Premiership, I've seen it first hand when I used to live in England, you should pay a visit to any synagogue and you'll see how anxious the Jewish community are..

Anxious and terrified of the man who will stand up against the interests that are ruthlessly obliterating their country and the world, rather than the woman and her party that are currently aiding in the destruction. Yep. Seems perfectly alright. Totally not delusional at all.

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« Reply #13 on: October 15, 2018, 08:36:33 PM »
« Edited: October 15, 2018, 08:46:19 PM by Bosporus Blues »

Well then dead0, why are you commenting? As a natural born, down earth fellow American like me, surely you wouldn't dare to understand the intricacies of the media habits and politics of our noble highbrow cousins across the pond either.

In all seriousness, keep beating the dead horse and drinking the kool-aid. It's great stuff, you know. The Tories will get a fine spanking when election silence kicks in. All the garbage the establishment has been slinging will be for naught when Corbyn takes power and implements his "radical" policies that, shockingly enough, will benefit the average person, including Jews, Muslims, and people of all faiths.
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« Reply #14 on: October 16, 2018, 04:19:40 PM »

Well then dead0, why are you commenting? As a natural born, down earth fellow American like me, surely you wouldn't dare to understand the intricacies of the media habits and politics of our noble highbrow cousins across the pond either.

In all seriousness, keep beating the dead horse and drinking the kool-aid. It's great stuff, you know. The Tories will get a fine spanking when election silence kicks in. All the garbage the establishment has been slinging will be for naught when Corbyn takes power and implements his "radical" policies that, shockingly enough, will benefit the average person, including Jews, Muslims, and people of all faiths.

The Americans and Israelis are going to be the ones aiding in the hurried evacuations and settling the refugees, so I think we have a valid reason to be involved here.

Stop gaslighting. We don't believe you.

You really need help for your paranoid delusions.

All the bowing and scraping in the world didn't save my great-uncle and his family once Stalin got around to them, and it won't save the people over there who think like you either.

Lemme get this straight. You actually believe that Jeremy Corbyn is a 21st century British Stalin who will somehow cause mass evacuations of Jewish people. You are also firmly convinced of your sanity.

Whatever you say, Ray, whatever you say.
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« Reply #15 on: October 16, 2018, 05:35:06 PM »

Well then dead0, why are you commenting? As a natural born, down earth fellow American like me, surely you wouldn't dare to understand the intricacies of the media habits and politics of our noble highbrow cousins across the pond either.

In all seriousness, keep beating the dead horse and drinking the kool-aid. It's great stuff, you know. The Tories will get a fine spanking when election silence kicks in. All the garbage the establishment has been slinging will be for naught when Corbyn takes power and implements his "radical" policies that, shockingly enough, will benefit the average person, including Jews, Muslims, and people of all faiths.

The Americans and Israelis are going to be the ones aiding in the hurried evacuations and settling the refugees, so I think we have a valid reason to be involved here.

Stop gaslighting. We don't believe you.

You really need help for your paranoid delusions.

All the bowing and scraping in the world didn't save my great-uncle and his family once Stalin got around to them, and it won't save the people over there who think like you either.

Lemme get this straight. You actually believe that Jeremy Corbyn is a 21st century British Stalin who will somehow cause mass evacuations of Jewish people. You are also firmly convinced of your sanity.

Whatever you say, Ray, whatever you say.

Yes, I believe the man who expresses the opinion that Jews are not proper citizens of the UK if they don't renounce their fellow Jews and likes to pay tribute to our murderers is a direct danger to the safety of my Jewish brothers in the UK.

But I guess that's an acceptable price to pay for some in the name of "Glorious socialism".



This should make all the eyes and ears on the walls go away in no time at all.
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