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« on: October 23, 2018, 07:45:18 PM »
Quote from: Comrade Funk on October 23, 2018, 05:46:52 PM
Quote from: Beet on October 23, 2018, 05:02:51 PM
Quote from: Lou Barletta's Teeth on October 23, 2018, 04:59:05 PM
Harris was in Iowa today stumping for Democrats and the crowds were quite impressive for a candidate this early in the stage...





LOL I knew it. Might as well cancel the primaries now; it's going to be a Kamala coronation. Only Bernie could challenge her if he runs.
No poll (albeit not many) has Kamala ahead of Biden, Bernie, or Warren. Ofc she has far less name recognition rn, but I think you're being premature/hyperbolic here. Also, I fail to see how it's a "coronation" considering she's getting grassroots support if those tweets are to be believed.

Beet, in all of his avatars iterations, has an odd fixation on hating Kamala Harris and blaming her for what he sees as an inevitable ethnopolitical party system.
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« Reply #1 on: October 30, 2018, 07:16:51 PM »

I hope this puts that to rest...though I doubt it will.
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« Reply #2 on: October 31, 2018, 07:49:24 PM »
Quote from: henster on October 31, 2018, 07:25:37 PM

Another person who won't make the main debate stage.

Yeah, I don't see him getting very far either. Maybe he would make a decent running mate, but more than anything he should run against Gardner in 2020.
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« Reply #3 on: November 07, 2018, 07:47:50 PM »
Quote from: Sherrod Brown 2020 on November 06, 2018, 11:43:35 PM
Well, Sherrod Brown ended his victory speech with this:

"That is the message coming out of Ohio in 2018, and that is the blueprint for America for 2020."

That sounds like he's considering a run.

I would love that, but it's a terrible idea for the Senate. DeWine cannot be allowed to have his revenge for Brown defeating him in 2006 by appointing Jim Jordan to replace him or something. DeWine winning makes Sherrod Brown being on a national ticket impossible.
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« Reply #4 on: November 12, 2018, 07:48:29 PM »
Quote from: Spiffy on November 12, 2018, 11:00:07 AM
Sherrod Brown’s wife



Ordinarily I would be ecstatic, but as I can't emphasize enough, Governor-elect DeWine makes this a bad idea.
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« Reply #5 on: November 12, 2018, 08:28:38 PM »
Quote from: Figueira on November 12, 2018, 08:26:22 PM
Quote from: Progressive Pessimist on November 12, 2018, 07:48:29 PM
Quote from: Spiffy on November 12, 2018, 11:00:07 AM
Sherrod Brown’s wife



Ordinarily I would be ecstatic, but as I can't emphasize enough, Governor-elect DeWine makes this a bad idea.

Why would this "ordinarily" not be a problem? There would be a special election (that Republicans would be favored in) either way.

I meant "ordinarily" in the sense that the news itself would, or should make me excited, but not anymore. He needs to glue himself to that seat until the Demcoratic numbers in the Senate aren't hanging by a thread, at the very least.
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« Reply #6 on: November 16, 2018, 08:02:03 PM »

I want to partially blame Trump for this arrogance. Him getting away with similar behavior for so long has opened the floodgates to other sleazy would-be candidates like this.
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« Reply #7 on: November 17, 2018, 05:21:05 PM »
Quote from: Mr. Morden on November 17, 2018, 04:04:04 PM
Biden has adopted a German Shepherd named Major:

https://katu.com/news/nation-world/former-vice-president-joe-biden-adopts-new-dog



Not sure if that means he's more or less likely to run for president than he was before we had this news.  Tongue


I dig the popped collar. Biden's, not the dog's.
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« Reply #8 on: November 23, 2018, 08:24:47 PM »
Quote from: Askew on November 22, 2018, 02:04:35 AM
I think a lot of the media and Dem politicians learned the wrong lesson from 2016 and think that a white man will have it easier than another woman. Hillary didn't lose because she is a woman but because she generated little excitement in the base, was toxic to independents and ran one of the most arrogant and lazy campaigns I've ever seen from a Dem presidential candidate. Another woman won't have those issues.

I agree with your post in regards to how another woman wouldn't necessarily be a repeat of Clinton's loss from 2016. But I disagree that her campaign was lazy or arrogant. It was done in by a perfect storm of factors, ones mostly beyond her control. Lessons should still be learned from it, of course.
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« Reply #9 on: November 26, 2018, 07:18:05 PM »
Quote from: indietraveler on November 26, 2018, 07:13:37 PM
Quote from: aaroncd107 on November 26, 2018, 04:41:41 PM
N U T


That was a quick change of answer - I bet he's in!

BETo.
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« Reply #10 on: December 02, 2018, 07:54:33 PM »
Quote from: tosk on December 01, 2018, 09:09:40 PM
Quote from: MAGugh on December 01, 2018, 08:29:06 PM
Rhode Island Governor Gina Raimondo picks to lead the Democratic Governors Association over a 2020 campaign. She's out.

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/419265-raimondo-to-lead-dem-governors-wont-run-for-president

forgot anyone had talked about her... probably a good idea on her part

Agreed. She may have done better in getting re-elected than anyone would have expected, but she would be a very poor choice for a nominee. I never thought she was in contention either.
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« Reply #11 on: December 03, 2018, 08:00:08 PM »
Quote from: RogueBeaver on December 03, 2018, 06:17:27 PM


His anti-Pelosi gambit probably cost him any possible momentum for President or even a future in running for Markey's seat when he retires. I wonder if his constituents miss Tierney by now.
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« Reply #12 on: December 05, 2018, 07:31:54 PM »

Boo! Go away Andrew! Beto may have lost, but he lost like a martyr, same goes for Abrams. They met or exceeded expectations. Gillum couldn't even beat Ron f***ing DeSantis in a Democratic-favoring environment with all the polling on his side. He doesn't even have the excuse that Nelson may have about typical Floridian incompetence costing him votes. He needs to accept that either his charisma isn't enough to get him elected, or that he cannot get elected in a state like Florida; that would be the same case for the country as a whole.
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« Reply #13 on: December 06, 2018, 07:58:44 PM »
I have to be honest, Buttigieg went up on my list for making such an endearing, amusing tease like that.
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« Reply #14 on: January 15, 2019, 07:21:16 PM »
Quote from: MycroftCZ on January 15, 2019, 06:53:18 PM
Quote from: #TheShadowyAbyss on January 15, 2019, 06:50:56 PM


Oooh!

Exploratory Committee?

Had Cordray won last year, I would be ecstatic about this. It sucks to say this, but Sherrod Brown would serve his country and state better by staying in the Senate.  He probably wouldn't be able to win the primary anyway, granted, so maybe he's just running for the hell of it, but still, I don't think it's worth the risk.
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« Reply #15 on: January 15, 2019, 07:40:54 PM »

It actually is. But unfortunately, it focuses on things that too few care about anymore-accomplishments and policy.
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« Reply #16 on: January 16, 2019, 07:45:28 PM »
Quote from: Shadows on January 16, 2019, 12:29:01 PM
Brown Sanders Warren is going to be a very left wing group. You add how left people like Booker Harris Gillibrand have moved, the primaries will look completely different ideologically & policy wise than in 2016.

And that's saying a lot because 2016 really didn't have that much of a substance-based contrast between Clinton and Sanders, contrary to popular belief.
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« Reply #17 on: January 21, 2019, 07:37:19 PM »
Quote from: TarHeelDem on January 21, 2019, 04:37:30 PM
I think the difference between a lot of the Sanders critics and his supporters who criticize literally everyone else is that the former would do the responsible thing and vote for him in the general if it came to that whereas the latter group has proven to be irresponsible, self-righteous, and destructive when not given everything it wants.

That's pretty apt. Back in 2016 I was not a Sanders supporter in the primary but I was 100% willing to vote for him in the general election if I had to. And that remains the same for 2020 even if my preferred candidate loses the nomination. I wish more people kept their priorities straight and put their pride in their back pocket.
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« Reply #18 on: January 27, 2019, 08:14:56 PM »
Quote from: LabourJersey on January 27, 2019, 12:19:51 PM
There is absolutely a 0% chance that Hillary Clinton runs again and people need to stop encouraging conservative media that's pushing that dumb narrative for clickbait
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« Reply #19 on: January 28, 2019, 08:20:56 PM »
Quote from: jeb_arlo on January 28, 2019, 06:13:59 PM
Quote from: Pollster on January 28, 2019, 03:19:39 PM
Addressing this with a grain of salt, but I do see a line of logic here - if Brown teams up with Kamala early on, he can resign his Senate seat and trigger a special election to replace him, in which someone like Tim Ryan could run and hold the seat.

This is insanity.  Why would Democrats ever risk a hard-to-hold Senate seat, maybe a Senate majority, for a veep nominee who doesn't add anything to the ticket another dozen possible choices couldn't also add.  Madness!

I agree. Ohio is slipping away and that makes Brown's seat among the most valuable. It won't diminish my support for Harris if she chooses him though. He's a sought after running mate pick for a reason. But, yes, him staying in the Senate should be a priority. Hell, that's why Clinton didn't pick him. She saw the writing on the wall when it came to the Senate.
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« Reply #20 on: January 29, 2019, 07:58:28 PM »
Quote from: Joey1996 on January 29, 2019, 07:55:32 PM
Quote from: Randall on January 29, 2019, 07:28:40 PM
Quote from: TrumpPrimaryOpponent2020 on January 29, 2019, 06:37:08 PM
Garcetti is out per politico. Announcement to come at 8pm local time. Clears way for Harris to be sole CA candidate.

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/01/29/eric-garcetti-will-not-run-for-president-1136400   

One Eric out, two still in the mix. Swalwell's still VERY likely to run though, in my opinion, and he's a Californian.

He's also super irrelevant lol

Well, he is more relevant than Holder.
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« Reply #21 on: February 02, 2019, 06:48:23 PM »

It's probably for the best.
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« Reply #22 on: February 08, 2019, 07:44:53 PM »
Quote from: Spiffy on February 08, 2019, 06:01:59 PM


Betomania is coming back!
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« Reply #23 on: February 13, 2019, 08:03:40 PM »
Quote from: gottsu on February 13, 2019, 05:06:35 PM
Quote from: SirWoodbury on February 13, 2019, 05:01:00 PM
Quote from: Spiffy on February 13, 2019, 04:05:15 PM

This is going to be interesting.


Don't hold your breath. He'll close his shop early. If someone from GOP wants to primary Trump it's got to be someone bigger than Weld.

Agreed.


He should run for Senate or Governor instead and become the new Andrew Gillum when he inevitably loses by <1%.


Bad move. Cornyn will be much tougher to defeat to Cruz. Beto should not waste his profile on this and become known as the guy from Texas who lost twice while trying to run for Senate.
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« Reply #24 on: February 25, 2019, 09:15:07 PM »
Quote from: President Johnson on February 25, 2019, 02:55:06 PM
Terry McAuliffe appeared on Morning Joe today and said he would decide by the end of March whether to run. He stands by his word that both Northam and Faifax should resign.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQ9CUB8i1Ns


I don't think T-Mac would have a decent chance for nomination, but would make a decent president.

Unfortunately that's true of a lot of Democratic candidates and potential candidates.
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