COVID-19 Megathread 6: Return of the Omicron

[jamestroll]

If I had kids during covid.. and my children's schools were closed.. I would be banging on the front door kicking and screaming demanding it be reopened.

And now that more students are eligible for vaccines, the lack of effectiveness of cloth masks on omicron and omicron being more mild, I no longer support mask mandates for school children either.

[jamestroll]

Fairfax county a year ago.. closed schools.. open and over crowded bars restaurants and night clubs with no one enforcing capacity limits .. partially due to dc being shut down.

[jamestroll]

So does anyone here have any explanation why there have not been the mass deaths of children in Chicago Public Schools that were promised if their schools were held in person?

No Jimmie they've moved on to fearmongering about how half of all children will get "Long Covid", because this is the perfect excuse to continue their forever war: no one can agree on what "Long Covid" even is and it will take decades before we have any real evidence. Restrictions forever.

Long COVID is... proven to be a real thing, even though we don't know exactly what it is. Why are you using conspiracy theories to make other people look unreasonable?

Yes I am very concerned about long covid.

The nearly two years of learning lost.

The permanent culture of living with no risks.

The "social isolation is okay!" crowd.

Having co-workers never ever see each other and creating a further divide of haves and have nots. By the way, Democratic governors will have a very difficult time navigating between those two cores of their base.. the white liberals who never leave their home and the service workers who have to commute to work.

A generation of social inept people.

Yes, you are right, long covid is a very concerning issue.

[jamestroll]

Fairfax county a year ago.. closed schools.. open and over crowded bars restaurants and night clubs with no one enforcing capacity limits .. partially due to dc being shut down.

Yes, this is a great sound bite, but there are some key mitigating factors here:

1. If bars and restaurants are shut down by the government, they and the people put out of work need to be compensated by the government. The efforts to do so (CARES, American Rescue Plan) have led to the inflation we suffer now. Money does not grow on trees.

2. Nobody is forced to go to a bar or restaurant. Everyone goes there voluntarily and at their own risk. However all children are compelled to attend school. If schools cannot safely operate they need to go remote, and I say this believing that remote learning is greatly inferior in quality. As far as I can tell most school districts made every effort to try to keep open during the Omicron surge, even asking cafeteria staff and parents to be substitute teachers.

re: the endless inflation debates: it was caused by an over heated economy, supply chain woes from covid restrictions and unprecedented demand, and a rapid growth of the economy after shut downs of 2020. It will work itself out. Very likely in this calendar year.

The strains a year ago were not particularly dangerous to children and before vaccines, I did not object to masks. And at the time cloth masks were quite effective. I saw no reason to close schools.

[jamestroll]

Its time for Peterson for Governor in 2025.

[jamestroll]

If this is going to be an endemic... we are doing our children a disservice by not exposing them to covid. It is very important we get them some exposure while they are young.

[jamestroll]

Also masking is illegal in Virginia

§ 18.2-422. Prohibition of wearing of masks in certain places; exceptions.
It shall be unlawful for any person over 16 years of age to, with the intent to conceal his identity, wear any mask, hood or other device whereby a substantial portion of the face is hidden or covered so as to conceal the identity of the wearer, to be or appear in any public place, or upon any private property in this Commonwealth without first having obtained from the owner or tenant thereof consent to do so in writing. However, the provisions of this section shall not apply to persons (i) wearing traditional holiday costumes; (ii) engaged in professions, trades, employment or other activities and wearing protective masks which are deemed necessary for the physical safety of the wearer or other persons; (iii) engaged in any bona fide theatrical production or masquerade ball; or (iv) wearing a mask, hood or other device for bona fide medical reasons upon (a) the advice of a licensed physician or osteopath and carrying on his person an affidavit from the physician or osteopath specifying the medical necessity for wearing the device and the date on which the wearing of the device will no longer be necessary and providing a brief description of the device, or (b) the declaration of a disaster or state of emergency by the Governor in response to a public health emergency where the emergency declaration expressly waives this section, defines the mask appropriate for the emergency, and provides for the duration of the waiver. The violation of any provisions of this section is a Class 6 felony.

Code 1950, §§ 18.1-364, 18.1-367; 1960, c. 358; 1975, cc. 14, 15; 1986, c. 19; 2010, cc. 262, 420; 2014, c. 167.

it is time we move to a lawful society again.

[jamestroll]

My estimates on masking in Nova:

Arlington/Falls Church/Alexandria maybe 60%

Fairfax County 50 to 55%

Prince William County: 20 to 30% lol

Loudoun East- 50%

Loudoun West and South : 20%

[jamestroll]

https://twitter.com/WhyBlitz/status/1491492217155895303

Why are Democrats being so stupid on this issue???

This is not the San Francisco Bay Area.. the back lash to Covid restrictions in Nova is real..and should have been obvious over a year ago when the area largely functioning pre-pandemic while other wealthy Democratic areas had their populations double masked, wearing bio hazard suits and not leaving their home since March 2020.

[jamestroll]

I will say the double masking and requiring masks even outdoors in Peru has done nothing to slow the spread there.

[jamestroll]

People are tired of all these idiot scientists, teachers, health professionals etc on the pandemic. We need to move on with our lives.

[jamestroll]

I am panicking about hyperinflation or a great depression. I told yall the United States should have never shut down and we had to much stimulus. I am worried about the pluto return that the United States is about to experience.

[jamestroll]

I am panicking about hyperinflation or a great depression. I told yall the United States should have never shut down and we had to much stimulus. I am worried about the pluto return that the United States is about to experience.

This might be the one thing we agree about on the pandemic. I also think that the trillions of dollars of stimulus had a huge part in causing the inflation we experience now, and thus closing non-essential businesses was not sustainable at all. Despite being an popular viewpoint here, "money printer go brrrr" was not a legitimate economic/fiscal strategy.

Yes, not saying we should have had no stimulus, but the level of it is going to cause us problems further down in the years and leave the United States in a poor position to respond to the next national emergency.

[jamestroll]

Isn't it funny that a lot of the statements Trump made in 2020.. make a lot of sense in the Omicron era

SLOW THE TESTING DOWN

ITS JUST LIKE THE FLU

ITS JUST THE SNIFFLES

IT WILL ONE DAY DISAPPEAR

haha

[jamestroll]

Isn't it funny that a lot of the statements Trump made in 2020.. make a lot of sense in the Omicron era

SLOW THE TESTING DOWN

ITS JUST LIKE THE FLU

ITS JUST THE SNIFFLES

IT WILL ONE DAY DISAPPEAR

haha

So, what's your explanation for all the dead bodies?

Based on my convos with him, he doesn't have rational counter-arguments. He just WILL NOT accept COVID measures any longer, period, under any context. Whatever the implications of that are, it's irrelevant to him. The ends justify the means.

So, he's just mentally incapable?  There is quite a bit of that here.

Ehh, I wouldn't go that far. He's just a libertarian, and he thinks freedom is more important than saving lives.

I am not a libertarian.

Libertarians oppose public roads..

Libertarians oppose taxes and the only tax they would support are flat dollar amount taxes.

Libertarians would oppose any oppose criminal statues and let people do anything they want.

Libertarians would oppose any business regulations.

Libertarians do not seem to acknowledge that actions of other people can affect others. It is too idealistic and unrealistic when used as an extreme. I obviously favor maximum freedom but it should be realized that irresponsible acts of others can hurt society as a whole.

We can't expect everyone to hire to their own private security and be responsible for their own fires.

[jamestroll]

https://twitter.com/JoePajak/status/1494670238578884614

I recovered from Covid in December. I have none of that.

Long Covid is just propaganda.

People will pull up anything they can to get Biden to send everyone 2,000 dollar checks until covid is eradicated off earth.

[jamestroll]

I recovered from Covid in December. I have none of that.

Long Covid is just propaganda.

"That didn't affect me, therefore it doesn't exist."

Rather self-centered view of the world you have there.

Read Hammy's reply to me and then you will ne enlightened.

[jamestroll]

It has now been 6 weeks since we were promised mass deaths in chicago public schools if school was held in person.

[jamestroll]

The government never had any right to order businesses shut.

[jamestroll]

If you want a cheap source of heat for the remainder of the cold season, take all those useless cloth masks and burn them.

You can also use your cloth masks as rags for cleaning purposes as well.

We are finally being liberated!

[jamestroll]

I have seen essentially zero change in NYC since the mask mandate was lifted. Nearly everyone is still masked indoors.

Northern Virginia.. a significant amount are masking but well under 50%!

Closer to 20% tbh.

[jamestroll]

https://twitter.com/peterdaou/status/1501018296774283266

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[jamestroll]

these twitter people just make me want to bang my head against the wall..

those mother ers

https://twitter.com/kidcharles/status/1501042044600414213

Remember that twitter also said that Russia would not invade Ukraine and that Youngkin would carry Loudoun and Prince William counties.

[jamestroll]

Very good news from Virginia

https://twitter.com/JasonBallardVA/status/1501248140883771393

[jamestroll]

Two years ago WHO declared Covid a pandemic...

I am proud I have been skeptical and fighting against Covid measures since that time!