Opinion of Memphis

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The fact that such policies exist because a traditionally male dominated field by definition means it is easier for men to work in it is conveniently ignored. Seriously, what the hell?

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So, I guess we can we all agree that it's probably a bad idea to send PM's to women (or weird people like me) that you barely know on the Atlas alluding to the desire for sex?

That was really the only point to any of how this started before it morphed into this frightening behemoth.

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So, I guess we can we all agree that it's probably a bad idea to send PM's to women (or weird people like me) that you barely know on the Atlas alluding to the desire for sex?

That was really the only point to any of how this started before it morphed into this frightening behemoth.

I agree it's neither a good idea nor a demonstration of basic decency. But I also feel that the social acceptance for introductions has swung too far in the opposite direction where men are made to feel like predators for making any sort of compliment to a woman, no matter how tactfully done. And that's a shame both because people of both genders usually enjoy compliments and because most men are not vicious predators. It's extremely rude and presumptuous to suggest we are. Today's men are are caught in an unfair situation, which leads a lot of them to live lonely lives for fear of being labelled a slimeball or even a criminal. That's not to say life is perfect for women either. It's obviously not, but it irks me when womens grievances are accepted as gospel, but those of men are so callously dismessed because of assumptions that we are so privileged and bigoted and whatever. More broadly, there is an enormous stigma about men making any complaints about our lives, and that is a huge burden to live under as well. I very much wish that people could recognize, as I've stated earlier, that there are pros and cons to being either sex. The world is not as simple as female victims and male oppressors or vice versa.

We don't disagree much, really. I am not against men making nice advances at all, nor is society at large. My caveat is that there's a time and place, and you do need to be aware of your methods and know that the way in which this happened to me struck a lot of us as very inappropriate to say the least. As I stated elsewhere, a handful of others approached me in a much more polite way, and in a way this was flattering. I have no problems with this! It just comes down to how you do it. Perhaps that is a tricky edge to walk along, maybe it isn't fair to men. You do have good points, but most of us also have a hard time taking seriously the plight of being phallusly endowed. Also maybe unfair. In my personal experience and from women I've talked to, they don't feel victimized from advances,just annoyed.

At my last job in the states, a new casual female employee was hired and assigned to work with me. We got along splendidly, joking and flirting but not seriously. The rest of the staff, overwhelmingly men of a variety of ages. I should mention she was young and attractive. At the end of the shift I watched almost every single male employee saunter over to us to literally just make small talk as an excuse to oggle her up and down. All of them. It was very creepy, and she said as much to me. She deals with that on a daily basis. That sh**t would get tiring after a while. Some women might've enjoyed that, of course, but not all. It's very important to go about it in the right way.

At my current job, no women come in to work alongside us. They used to, but what I described above happened there as well a little too often. No outright sexual harassment, just an annoying atmosphere of objectification. The women in my anecdotes weren't all "woe is me" as much as they were irritated by the barrage of unwelcome attention. I think the Atlas can be this way. Your mileage may vary.

Ugh, I went on and on again. Sorry.

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So, I guess we can we all agree that it's probably a bad idea to send PM's to women (or weird people like me) that you barely know on the Atlas alluding to the desire for sex?

You're a transexxual as well?

Well, no. I like my genitals just fine. In my own head I'm somewhere in the middle and I enjoy pretending. And I found a partner who doesn't think it's too odd, so I'm happy.

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You're a transexxual as well?

Well, no. I like my genitals just fine. In my own head I'm somewhere in the middle and I enjoy pretending. And I found a partner who doesn't think it's too odd, so I'm happy.

Yes! that's hot.  Thai ladyboys only very rarely remove any genitals - they merely get whopping great breast implants.  Its a wonderful compromise.

Thanks, I suppose. I don't qualify as ladyboy material at all, though, and I don't altogether mind going about my day to day business as a quirky male. I do find them quite admirable. Breasts would be great fun, of course. I think even many straight men wouldn't mind a pair of their own breasts to play with from time to time. But that's what marriage, girlfriends, and prostitutes are for, I guess.

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These discussions about gender - and gender-related behaviour - made by people who seems not to have any clue about anyone but themselves (and this, surely, on the very shallow level of self knowledge most people have) are a very good way to lose the very last hopes about human beings as individuals.

Dammit!! Reading an argument between 15 years old machista thinking patterns against 15 years unsophisticated-pseudo-feminist thinking patterns is a very bad exercise on self-inflicted psychological torture.


Why don't you boys and girls of all ages and chromosomes just go around meeting people, treating them like people, knowing them deeply (once you really connect to someone, he/she will always open up their soul to you; try it kids, it's not that hard, you just must demonstrate you're not wanting to use them or take something from them - just be sincere and amicable) and, doing so, start to perceive how contradictory the individuals of our species are?
How prone to be douchebags and, and the same time, to be selfless we all are?
How males and females of any body configuration are different one of each other as groups? And how oddly we are the same and we're doing the same stupid things all the time, again and again?

Let me tell you somethings, for you seemingly inexperienced in life folks to start:

- men are all douchebags;
- women too, but a bit less conspicuously;
- but if you like one of those groups (or both, if that's your thing) It's marvellous to hang out and to live together;
- and it's also like hell;
- and coexisting with your own kind is much more easy;
- and men are plainer than women and easier to deal, in any kind of relationship (love, friendship, whatever);
- but this doesn't make us any less complicated - we are very complicated too;
- but once you understand the other group (and you'll just not understand if you spend energy on not paying attention to them) it's like learning another language without formal study - that immersion technique, you know?
- and people behave differently, and many of them go way out the stereotypes;
- and there's absolutely nothing remarkable in what I wrote here: it's cliché, over cliché, over cliché, just because it's obvious - but such a few people stops to pay attention to those clichés.


So, please, stop this stupid discussion and go meet the world. It's not far at all; I bet that in your extended Family and neighbourhood you can find all the material you need.

Porra!! Cambada de cabaços!


(sorry for the bad expeletives in Portuguese, but I just needed to relax a little).

I have a fun game - let's spot the inconsistencies! Here's what just happened:

- You replied to the thread
- You made broad generalisations of everyone involved in this discussion
- You then tell us not to make broad generalisations about individuals
- You make some sweeping statements about men and women
- You tell us that men and women are more than these cliches
- You told everyone to stop replying to the thread

I understand that this is a frustrating discussion, but the point we're making is rather similar to yours (at least half of the time). We need to get to know an individual before judging them and base behaviour as such. But, even when we get to know them, we will still compartmentalize them in some ways in our heads because it's easier on the brain to find and sort with patterns. The way Team Memphis has organised people mentally because of their genitals is destructive and can be very hurtful, but of course not for everyone in all circumstances. The point: look beyond gender and see the individual, being sensitive to how your actions can be perceived. Is that not fair? Is that the ideal of someone with no life experience?