Justice Kavanaugh Confirmation Hearing *DISCUSSION AND LIVE COMMENTARY*

[IndustrialJustice]

Also it turns out this hail-mary isn't even a bombshell or "me-too" moment, Kavanaugh and a couple of friends got drunk at a party when they were 17 and locked a girl in a room as a joke. Yeah, I'm sure this is totally what will do him in, idiots

https://twitter.com/RonanFarrow/status/1040610704670093314

Umm, this is more than just locking a girl in a room as a joke.

Cool, any corroboration or proof from her? The fact that Feinstein didn't refer this until yesterday after sitting on it for six months is not a strong endorsement of her story. Kavanaugh will be confirmed no matter how big of a tantrum you throw.

Uh, it was a subjective decision by Feinstein of what was "fair" to Kavanugh. She didn't personally investigate the accuser and come to a reasoned conclusion of the accusation's veracity.

So, essentially, Feinstein sat on it for the same reason Biden declined to put on Anita Hill's corroborators: they're centrist hacks who don't really care whether people like Kavanaugh and Thomas take the bench. And everyone who doubted Hill looks like an idiot these days.

[IndustrialJustice]

That Ed Whelan tweetstorm, holy crap.

[IndustrialJustice]

Defending Kavanaugh at this point essentially requires you to believe everything he and his PR team have put out there, so it now forces you to buy the obvious lie that he didn't mean anything by that dumb sex-brag in his Yearbook caption (because even copping to that now would make Kavanaugh feel like he's giving the game away).

He's probably also lying about remaining a virgin into his twenties, but nothing he's been accused of is even slightly inconsistent with rich incel behavior. But, again, this is merely a matter of credibility now, so to get Kavanaugh on the court his defenders have to pretend this is a big conspiracy that national Democrats and his accusers are in on together, and Kavanaugh is a man of sterling reputation who is being screwed over in an incomprehensibly specific manner by a litany of people in his past who have no reason to ruin their lives by accusing him of (at least, in all cases) sexual assault.

Amazingly, this probably would have been easier for Republicans if Kavanaugh had copped to the acts and said he's changed greatly over the last three decades and that his youth shouldn't define him. Instead, he's calling everyone except him a liar, so this is what you get.

[IndustrialJustice]

Bill Clinton is almost certainly a rapist, and Brett Kavanaugh is almost certainly guilty of sexual assault at some point in his life. Next.

[IndustrialJustice]

McConnell is just peacocking until he actually sets a date.

[IndustrialJustice]

I just have trouble believing that someone in K's position could be that evil and sociopathic given his "facade."  (He just doesn't come across like Trump  does, where any charge would seem plausible.)  Obviously, I have no idea where the truth lies, and prefer to await the testimony. But this latest charge would take time to work through, to see if it has any impeaching holes in it. The Pubs are really in the cross hairs now. How do they get through this without angering their base, and without the clock running out, and without an electoral disaster?

This is embarrassingly naive.

[IndustrialJustice]

https://twitter.com/BradMossEsq/status/1045000627389190145

Does seem kind of weird to me at least that a woman would keep going to such parties.

I know this is now the de facto line of defense after this morning's affidavit, but it's completely ignorant as to how youth parties work even in the 2010s. Did none of you attend a frat party in college?

[IndustrialJustice]

https://twitter.com/BradMossEsq/status/1045000627389190145

Does seem kind of weird to me at least that a woman would keep going to such parties.

I know this is now the de facto line of defense after this morning's affidavit, but it's completely ignorant as to how youth parties work even in the 2010s. Did none of you attend a frat party in college?

No, and if gang rapes are normal at such events and even the women treat it nonchalantly I'm even more glad I didn't.

I'm honestly pretty concerned that if gang rapes were common at the frat parties IndustrialJustice attended, why didn't he report them?

The police wouldn't care. This kind of conduct is probably seen as too accepted, for lack of a better word, to have anything done about it. The police are awful about sexual assault. You'd be amazed what some people don't talk about.

And I think industrial should get a chance to clarify what he said

There's nothing to clarify. They're trolling. Date rape drugs are rampant on college campuses, and they're concentrated in Greek life. You can bust a few members a year or, if the administration is lucky, even ban a frat, but they'll just pop up again like fresh grass (often thanks to old money). I never stepped foot in one of those dungeons again after my first month on campus.

[IndustrialJustice]

As someone who was actually in a sorority in college, and attended many frat parties on my campus and when visiting other schools, I can guarantee I've never been to a single party or even heard of a single party where gang rapes were happening, or even where date rape drugs were commonly used aside from the one or two scummy people who were kicked out as soon as they were caught. And considering there are several posters on this forum who were involved in Greek life while in college, it's pretty disgusting that you're making the assumption that it's common for frat boys to use date rape drugs or engage in gang rape.

Gambling, in this establishment?

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/sep/24/rape-sexual-assault-ban-frats?CMP=share_btn_tw

[IndustrialJustice]

What has Avenatti been wrong about, again? Remind me.

And Swetnick probably made the right hire for the statement she wanted to make. Look at how the media and Judiciary Committee have largely ignored Ramirez's counsel.

[IndustrialJustice]

https://mobile.twitter.com/politico/status/1044971068056842240

lol

[IndustrialJustice]

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There is something mentally wrong with these people.

Copping to a sexual assault I didn't commit to own the libs.