Doug Jones votes with blue dogs and Trump on budget

[IndustrialJustice]

Doug Jones campaigned on being bipartisan and working together, so obviously he is going to vote in a mostly centrist way.

Generally politicians try to behave/vote like they campaign.

I don't remember Scott Brown doing such a thing.

Because Republicans understand power and knew to treat Brown’s Senate win like the fluke it was. I don’t remember Brown vowing to unions or speaking centrist on budgets and taxes.

Doug Jones will almost certainly not win re-election. If he is a true progressive, he should ditch the moderation and try to help the horribly oppressed people in his state like he promised to. Anything less is a waste of the capabilities of his seat and the good fortunes of his win.

[IndustrialJustice]

Doug Jones campaigned on being bipartisan and working together, so obviously he is going to vote in a mostly centrist way.

Generally politicians try to behave/vote like they campaign.

I don't remember Scott Brown doing such a thing.

Because Republicans understand power and knew to treat Brown’s Senate win like the fluke it was. I don’t remember Brown vowing to unions or speaking centrist on budgets and taxes.

Doug Jones will almost certainly not win re-election. If he is a true progressive, he should ditch the moderation and try to help the horribly oppressed people in his state like he promised to. Anything less is a waste of the capabilities of his seat and the good fortunes of his win.

So since Jones will "almost certainly" not win, he should indulge in meaningless gestures that will guarantee that he doesn't win? Okay.

You seriously think voting the opposite way on this would have “guaranteed” his loss in 2020 (assuming, as you seem to be doing, that Jones has even a fraction of a chance of victory)? Okay.

In a vacuum, it’s a meaningless vote. But to reasonable people, it should signal a worrying start.

[IndustrialJustice]

Doug Jones campaigned on being bipartisan and working together, so obviously he is going to vote in a mostly centrist way.

Generally politicians try to behave/vote like they campaign.

I don't remember Scott Brown doing such a thing.

Because Republicans understand power and knew to treat Brown’s Senate win like the fluke it was. I don’t remember Brown vowing to unions or speaking centrist on budgets and taxes.

Doug Jones will almost certainly not win re-election. If he is a true progressive, he should ditch the moderation and try to help the horribly oppressed people in his state like he promised to. Anything less is a waste of the capabilities of his seat and the good fortunes of his win.

So since Jones will "almost certainly" not win, he should indulge in meaningless gestures that will guarantee that he doesn't win? Okay.

You seriously think voting the opposite way on this would have “guaranteed” his loss in 2020 (assuming, as you seem to be doing, that Jones has even a fraction of a chance of victory)? Okay.

In a vacuum, it’s a meaningless vote. But to reasonable people, it should signal a worrying start.

Consistently making meaningless votes that alienate his voters will guarantee that he loses, yeah.

... he’s going to lose. He will not retain the seat. Stop talking about alienating voters when it won’t matter.

It was ultimately meaningless to vote on the side of Donald Trump and Mitch McConnell, too. I’m curious how that is a “win” for him almost three years away from re-election day.

[IndustrialJustice]

Doug Jones campaigned on being bipartisan and working together, so obviously he is going to vote in a mostly centrist way.

Generally politicians try to behave/vote like they campaign.

I don't remember Scott Brown doing such a thing.

Because Republicans understand power and knew to treat Brown’s Senate win like the fluke it was. I don’t remember Brown vowing to unions or speaking centrist on budgets and taxes.

Doug Jones will almost certainly not win re-election. If he is a true progressive, he should ditch the moderation and try to help the horribly oppressed people in his state like he promised to. Anything less is a waste of the capabilities of his seat and the good fortunes of his win.

So since Jones will "almost certainly" not win, he should indulge in meaningless gestures that will guarantee that he doesn't win? Okay.

You seriously think voting the opposite way on this would have “guaranteed” his loss in 2020 (assuming, as you seem to be doing, that Jones has even a fraction of a chance of victory)? Okay.

In a vacuum, it’s a meaningless vote. But to reasonable people, it should signal a worrying start.

Consistently making meaningless votes that alienate his voters will guarantee that he loses, yeah.

... he’s going to lose. He will not retain the seat. Stop talking about alienating voters when it won’t matter.

It was ultimately meaningless to vote on the side of Donald Trump and Mitch McConnell, too. I’m curious how that is a “win” for him almost three years away from re-election day.

Only morons confidently predict the fall of an incumbent three years before the election happens. His vote isn't a "win" and I never said it was - but his opponent cutting ads about how he voted against CHIP two months after promising to do all he could to fight for it isn't meaningless.

You seem to believe that Jones can credibly create a centrist profile without voting for Trump on some major pieces of legislation or procedure down the line. These small little meaningless votes in favor of Trump are absolutely pointless because they will long be forgotten by anyone who does not follow these things obsessively.

My concern is that Jones and his strategists will trick themselves into voting in favor of several (if not a majority) of Trump’s judicial nominees under the belief that this will result in legitimate centrist bonafides. In reality, his opponents will smear him as Nancy Pelosi’s best friend unless he personally introduces the bill to affirmatively abolish the ACA, and even then that won’t stop them. Republicans do not deal in good faith. Nothing is good enough.

[IndustrialJustice]

Is anyone surprised?

FWIW, I don't have anything against releasing their most vulnerable Senators to vote for cloture, as long as they have 40 other Senators to oppose it. The problem is when the Senate Majority Leader elected from New York is too chickensh*t to seriously whip the votes for the shutdown.

He provided the critical 60th vote on cloture for allowing Trump to spy on everyone.

Most liberals don't care about this.

[IndustrialJustice]

The only ones reflexively attacking or defending anyone here are centrists and liberals, who are excusing a Democrat’s crappy vote on the basis that it was... completely meaningless? Brilliant. Truly.

Jones should already be in everyone’s dog house for his inexplicable spying vote, but it’s clear that precious few people here will care about the substance of his voting record over the next few years.

[IndustrialJustice]

No one here should take some all of the radical maroon avatars seriously.

Do you seriously “endorse” Republicans?