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Cold War Liberal
KennedyWannabe99
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« on: February 28, 2019, 11:01:16 AM »

Still supporting Kamala, but Beto is easily my second choice.
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KennedyWannabe99
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« Reply #1 on: March 14, 2019, 08:27:39 AM »

I like Beto. For now I support Kamala, but I'm not totally happy with her, so if Beto lives up to the hype I am totally onboard.
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KennedyWannabe99
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« Reply #2 on: March 17, 2019, 10:34:41 PM »
« Edited: March 17, 2019, 10:44:50 PM by Cold War Liberal »

The party of inclusivity. Purple heart


Love how GOP minority outreach is so bad it would be distasteful in 1919, to say nothing of 2019
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Cold War Liberal
KennedyWannabe99
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« Reply #3 on: March 19, 2019, 04:23:51 PM »

Real question, when are we actually going to see Beto’s policies? Because right now the only indication are his blue dog endorsements (plus half of his support on here is from #bothsides moderate heroes, Republicans, and libertarians). I want to like Beto, but I really need to know what he’s running as first.
So when Beto initially said he wasn’t supporting Medicare for All as a presidential candidate I was miffed and briefly stopped supporting him because I thought he had nothing in place and would try to negotiate something with obstructionist Republicans. I walked it back when he came out in favor of Medicare for America which was written by Reps. DeLauro and Schakowsky. Medicare for America would move everyone from the ACA Exchange to Medicare, folks (like myself) who are about to age out of their parent’s insurance can join as well as others not insured, and all children born after its enaction would be born into the program. The main difference between this and Bernie’s plan is that people can retain their employer insurance if they so choose. This is much more realistic and puts us on a path to single payer.

The purists will hate it but it is ambitious and will get us to universal coverage. Eliminating all private insurance is unrealistic.

https://slate.com/business/2019/03/beto-orourke-health-plan-medicare-for-all-america.html

I need to find the link but while 81% of Dems would support Medicare for All, 91% support Medicare for America. Bernie supporters who think he can snap his fingers and make all his dreams the law of the land will resist this but Beto’s plan is progressive and attainable.
I love this, actually. Medicare for America is much better than Medicare for All, in that it’s actually attainable. May actually bump Beto up to the #2 slot for me.
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Cold War Liberal
KennedyWannabe99
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« Reply #4 on: March 19, 2019, 11:21:21 PM »
« Edited: March 19, 2019, 11:24:37 PM by Cold War Liberal »

Real question, when are we actually going to see Beto’s policies? Because right now the only indication are his blue dog endorsements (plus half of his support on here is from #bothsides moderate heroes, Republicans, and libertarians). I want to like Beto, but I really need to know what he’s running as first.
So when Beto initially said he wasn’t supporting Medicare for All as a presidential candidate I was miffed and briefly stopped supporting him because I thought he had nothing in place and would try to negotiate something with obstructionist Republicans. I walked it back when he came out in favor of Medicare for America which was written by Reps. DeLauro and Schakowsky. Medicare for America would move everyone from the ACA Exchange to Medicare, folks (like myself) who are about to age out of their parent’s insurance can join as well as others not insured, and all children born after its enaction would be born into the program. The main difference between this and Bernie’s plan is that people can retain their employer insurance if they so choose. This is much more realistic and puts us on a path to single payer.

The purists will hate it but it is ambitious and will get us to universal coverage. Eliminating all private insurance is unrealistic.

https://slate.com/business/2019/03/beto-orourke-health-plan-medicare-for-all-america.html

I need to find the link but while 81% of Dems would support Medicare for All, 91% support Medicare for America. Bernie supporters who think he can snap his fingers and make all his dreams the law of the land will resist this but Beto’s plan is progressive and attainable.

It is a crap policy vs Single Payer. It is a buy-in which will have little effect on millions of uninsured & underinsured & would continue to encourage a system with huge per capita spending with poor results.

And it will never lead to Universal healthcare which neoliberals don't want anyways. They just should be open & accept it.

The uninsured, people on Medicaid, and people who get their insurance through the ACA exchanges would automatically be put onto Medicare, while the other half of the country would get to choose between Medicare and their employer’s insurance. Newborns would be automatically enrolled. Everyone would immediately have some form of health insurance - which is what universal coverage is, by definition - and within 40 or so years I guess everyone who currently has employer insurance will be retired or dead, and so by ~2060 everyone will have government insurance.

Not that I’d expect socialists to read legislation; legislating isn’t revolutionary enough and policy is for the bourgeoisie. Smiley
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« Reply #5 on: May 12, 2019, 11:19:35 AM »

This privileged white guy shouldn't be near our nomination, not that he has to worry at the moment.


Yes because I'll be OUTRAGED if my PRIVILEGED nominee doesn't support downballot dems like Daniel Lipinski. Beto is CANCELLED!
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