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« on: October 02, 2022, 09:48:05 PM »

Who's voting Lula/right-wing parties for Congress?
I mean, it’s like how Rs, even known crazies, outperformed trump.
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weatherboy1102
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« Reply #1 on: October 02, 2022, 10:37:23 PM »

Who's voting Lula/right-wing parties for Congress?
I mean, it’s like how Rs, even known crazies, outperformed trump.

As HSTruman just remarked on Discord: "broke: eternal 2016 primary; woke: eternal 2020 general election"
Didn't know he was even around, I thought he quit atlas entirely after the Atlasia fiasco
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weatherboy1102
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« Reply #2 on: October 03, 2022, 01:03:43 PM »

In the congress elections, Bolsonaro allies seem poised to hold on to a majority, although very, very slim:

Chamber of Deputies:

  99 PL
  59 União Brasil
  47 PP
  41 Republicans
  12 Podemos
258 Bolsonaro allies (50.3%)
  80 PT
  14 PSOL/REDE
  14 PSB
108 Lula allies (21.1%)
  42 MDB
  42 PSD
  18 PSDB
  17 PDT
  28 Others

Senate:

13 PL
12 União Brasil
  7 PP
  6 Podemos
  3 Republicans
41 Bolsonaro allies (50.6%)
  9 PT
  1 REDE
  1 PSB
11 Lula allies (13.6%)
10 PSD
10 MDB
  4 PSDB
  2 PDT
  1 Cidadania
  2 Others

I think that the allies numbers seem correct, but feel free to correct them if there's some mistake in a party support Smiley

Eeeesh. That is brutal.

Of course afaik Brazilian party allegiances are rather fluid and usually elected Presidents manage to cobble together a governing majority regardless of nominal ideology.

Yeah, looking at it there's definitely some less hard-right parties, at least nominally, that could be chipped away from the Bolsonaro Bloc.
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« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2022, 07:40:07 PM »

Talked to a friend who is a Bolsonaro->Lula voter, he’s quite happy hearing the result
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« Reply #4 on: October 30, 2022, 08:38:53 PM »

Talked to a friend who is a Bolsonaro->Lula voter, he’s quite happy hearing the result

Interesting. What's his political evolution been like?
He voted for Bolsonaro because of PT’s corruption but regretted it within a year. I don’t think he’s particularly enthusiastic about Lula, just hates Bolsonaro. He’s also a furry like me which is how I know him, so like most of us I assume he’s generally left-libertarian leaning.
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weatherboy1102
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« Reply #5 on: December 18, 2022, 03:15:31 AM »

The national direction of PSOL (the Brazilian Linke) decided that its representatives will be part of the new PT (the Brazilian SPD) government supporting base in the Congress but declined to have ministers. This is a compromise decision between the wing which wanted to be really part of Lula's administration and the wing which wanted to be independent.

that sounds like a worst of both worlds compromise tbh.
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