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Question: Do you oppose school vouchers under ALL circumstances?
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Queen Mum Inks.LWC
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« on: November 17, 2007, 04:50:14 AM »

No - but they were generally a bad idea.
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Queen Mum Inks.LWC
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« Reply #1 on: November 17, 2007, 05:21:38 AM »

School vouchers are actually one of the issues on which I break from most in my region of the political realm.  Personally, I think that a quality education is one of the most important things a person can ever receive in life, and if a public school in an area is beyond hope, I see no reason why the poor children in the area can't be made able to attend a better school, provided the school is not some religious indoctrination place (which, contrary to what appears to be popular belief, most private schools are not).

Even if they're "religious based" - schools like Lutheran Westland which I wrestled against weren't strict at all.  And then there were private schools like Summit Academy (free private) - basically the palce to go after you'd been kicked out of EVERYWHERE else.
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Queen Mum Inks.LWC
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« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2007, 08:07:44 PM »

Ok Harry you want to fix schools? The answer is simple: drop the department of education, drop no child left behind, drop teaching to the test as part of a 5 part strategy of radical reform. The second part of this involves moving to a german-type educational style with vocational education/apprenticeship for those who want it. Thirdly, set up more charter schools plus regulating private schools to prevent them from discriminating based on factors besides ability to get in(if we allow vouchers at all). Fourthly place enough regulations on homeschooling to keep out things like mixing Jesus and actual education. These regulations would more or less kill homeschooling except for a very few lefties doing it. Lastly pay teachers more than chickenfeed AND cut down on job security/union protections(to prevent idiots from not being fired).


All 5 of those points are fantastic, except that homeschooling should be completely disallowed, except in rare special cases (the child has an unusual disability or something).

What's wrong w/ homeschooling if they can fit into a college perfectly well?
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Queen Mum Inks.LWC
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« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2007, 11:57:11 PM »

Ok Harry you want to fix schools? The answer is simple: drop the department of education, drop no child left behind, drop teaching to the test as part of a 5 part strategy of radical reform. The second part of this involves moving to a german-type educational style with vocational education/apprenticeship for those who want it. Thirdly, set up more charter schools plus regulating private schools to prevent them from discriminating based on factors besides ability to get in(if we allow vouchers at all). Fourthly place enough regulations on homeschooling to keep out things like mixing Jesus and actual education. These regulations would more or less kill homeschooling except for a very few lefties doing it. Lastly pay teachers more than chickenfeed AND cut down on job security/union protections(to prevent idiots from not being fired).


All 5 of those points are fantastic, except that homeschooling should be completely disallowed, except in rare special cases (the child has an unusual disability or something).

What's wrong w/ homeschooling if they can fit into a college perfectly well?
There's no way a single person is qualified to teach all those subjects.  Even if they bring in all sorts of different teachers, it still prevents people from getting social education and learning to live in the world.
That's another drawback of private schools in the South...whites with racist parents who send them to private school get to college/workforce and have never interacted with blacks before, and it's a big culture shock to them.  Integrating the schools will help cut done on this.


Also, for the record, I don't agree with abolishing the Dept. of Education either.

How do you know they aren't qualified?  Probably not in high school, but elementary and middle schools is actually pretty easy.  And if they can pass the same tests, why does this matter?
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