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Queen Mum Inks.LWC
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« on: February 11, 2014, 07:22:14 PM »
« edited: March 13, 2014, 11:41:32 PM by Assemblyman & Queen Mum Inks.LWC »

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« Reply #1 on: February 11, 2014, 07:22:52 PM »

What exactly is the concern that you have that we are currently wasting money?  What exactly are we doing that is wasteful now?
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« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2014, 11:05:43 PM »

Is there any debate in support of this?  If not, I fail to see why we should support it.
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« Reply #3 on: February 14, 2014, 01:03:47 AM »

Well a resolution would do nothing to actually change anything.
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« Reply #4 on: February 14, 2014, 01:09:19 AM »

A resolution can't compel the Governor to do anything.  Only a bill requiring him to do that would.
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« Reply #5 on: February 14, 2014, 01:17:13 AM »

We can't very well compel the Governor to do audits, if it's similar to my real life state laws, so a resolution is the best way to say, "This is what the Legislature wants."

We can require that the Mideast Government perform audits; I would argue that falls within our legislative power.  If you disagree, we could always amend the Constitution.  But I see no point to pass a fluff resolution.

While I was never supportive of the Questioning the Power Act, it was never struck down as unconstitutional and that surely had more potential erosion into "Executive Power" than this bill.
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« Reply #6 on: February 14, 2014, 01:21:30 AM »

We can't very well compel the Governor to do audits, if it's similar to my real life state laws, so a resolution is the best way to say, "This is what the Legislature wants."

We can require that the Mideast Government perform audits; I would argue that falls within our legislative power.  If you disagree, we could always amend the Constitution.  But I see no point to pass a fluff resolution.

While I was never supportive of the Questioning the Power Act, it was never struck down as unconstitutional and that surely had more potential erosion into "Executive Power" than this bill.

If you think we're able to force audits, I'll rewrite this into a legitimate bill.

I think it would be constitutional; however, I'd like to see a GM analysis to see if it would actually save any money.
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« Reply #7 on: February 14, 2014, 01:51:22 AM »

We can't very well compel the Governor to do audits, if it's similar to my real life state laws, so a resolution is the best way to say, "This is what the Legislature wants."

We can require that the Mideast Government perform audits; I would argue that falls within our legislative power.  If you disagree, we could always amend the Constitution.  But I see no point to pass a fluff resolution.

While I was never supportive of the Questioning the Power Act, it was never struck down as unconstitutional and that surely had more potential erosion into "Executive Power" than this bill.

If you think we're able to force audits, I'll rewrite this into a legitimate bill.

I think it would be constitutional; however, I'd like to see a GM analysis to see if it would actually save any money.

Okay, I'll redraft it. And, even if it breaks even, it's good policy. Jon Huntsman always talks about the "trust deficit" people have with government, this helps resolve that.

And if it doesn't break even?
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Queen Mum Inks.LWC
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« Reply #8 on: February 15, 2014, 01:25:24 PM »

I see no need for this at the present time, to be honest.

Neither do I.
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« Reply #9 on: March 02, 2014, 11:14:00 PM »

Can I get a feeling of where people are on this?  I see no need for it, and thus no need to wait for a new GM to get the analysis.
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« Reply #10 on: March 11, 2014, 02:38:50 AM »

Well, it seems pointless to wait around for Griffin, who likely won't review this anyway, so let's just bring it to a vote.  Members will vote AYE, NAY, or ABSTAIN.  This will be a 48-hour vote.
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« Reply #11 on: March 11, 2014, 02:39:45 AM »

NAY
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« Reply #12 on: March 13, 2014, 11:39:34 PM »

Voting is now closed. The AYEs are 2, and the NAYs are 2, with 1 not voting. The AYEs not having reached a majority, the bill has failed.
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