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Tender Branson
Mark Warner 08
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« on: June 21, 2007, 11:45:38 AM »

Recently it was said that the USA passed the 300m mark in population. I'm just curious if this meant 300m  citizens, or if it just meant 300m people within the boarders of the USA, including the 12m or so illegal immigrants this country has.

Thanks,
Jacob

About 2010 Census:

What ?

Count

The census is a count of everyone residing in the United States: in all 50 states, Puerto Rico and the Island Areas.

Who ?

Everyone

All residents of the United States must be counted. This includes people of all ages, races, ethnic groups, citizens and non-citizens.

http://www.census.gov/2010census/about_2010_census/

I suppose it was the case in 2000 too.
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Tender Branson
Mark Warner 08
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« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2007, 12:51:08 AM »

Coincidental transiency maybe?  Couldn't that account for the difference?

At least here, I always trust state estimates over Census estimates.  I doubt it's much of a different situation elsewhere.

Is there a website that would have state estimates for all 50 states? The only one I've seen is a story on California's state estimate, which was noticably higher than the Census Bureau.

Try this:

http://www.census.gov/population/www/coop/contacts.html
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Tender Branson
Mark Warner 08
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« Reply #2 on: August 18, 2007, 07:10:11 AM »

Recently it was said that the USA passed the 300m mark in population. I'm just curious if this meant 300m  citizens, or if it just meant 300m people within the boarders of the USA, including the 12m or so illegal immigrants this country has.

Thanks,
Jacob

I think you can say it like this:

The 2010 census count will show a total US population of about 310 Million people.

Out of these 310 Million counted about 91% (282 Mio.) will be US citizens and 9% (28 Mio.) non-citizens.

(The precentage of non-citizens is steadily increasing, from 3% in 1980 to 5% in 1990 and 7% in 2000)

Experts say that about 60% of the non-citizens are legally in the US - but thatīs just a wild guess. So if we assume that 60% of the 28 Mio. non-citizens are "legally" in the country, it leaves about 11 Million counted non-citizens (=40%), which can be considered illegally in the country. But thatīs just those who co-operate with the census-officials and there are certainly a lot who donīt.

So, basically you can say that there will be 282 Mio. US-citizens by 2010, 15-20 Mio. "legal" non-citizens and about 5-20 Mio. "Illegals" of which about 50% will show up in the count of 310 Mio. while the rest remains underground during the count ...

http://www.cis.org/articles/2005/sactestimony120605.html
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