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Senator Incitatus
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Junior Chimp
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E: 2.06, S: 5.74
« on: July 29, 2019, 09:55:15 PM »
It looks like Biden is actually in a stronger position for the second debate than he was going into the first.
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AMB1996
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,515
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Political Matrix
E: 2.06, S: 5.74
« Reply #1 on: July 30, 2019, 06:06:36 PM »
Van Jones just said Buttigieg slipped on "the banana peel of racism." Dogwhistle.
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AMB1996
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,515
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Political Matrix
E: 2.06, S: 5.74
« Reply #2 on: July 30, 2019, 07:10:40 PM »
For the sake of nostalgia/context, here's the RCP average going into the second Republican debate in 2016 (Sep. 16):

Trump 30.5%
Carson 20.0%
Bush 7.8%
Cruz 6.8%
Rubio 5.3%
Huckabee 4.5%
Fiorina 3.3%
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AMB1996
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,515
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Political Matrix
E: 2.06, S: 5.74
« Reply #3 on: July 30, 2019, 07:14:29 PM »
Bullock has practiced this statement so much. He sounds like he's trying to sell me a used car.
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AMB1996
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,515
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Political Matrix
E: 2.06, S: 5.74
« Reply #4 on: July 30, 2019, 07:15:55 PM »
Marianne is amazing. Purple heart
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AMB1996
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,515
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Political Matrix
E: 2.06, S: 5.74
« Reply #5 on: July 30, 2019, 07:20:54 PM »
Klobuchar promises to be from the Midwest. Bold move; tough to see how she delivers on not moving.
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AMB1996
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,515
United States


Political Matrix
E: 2.06, S: 5.74
« Reply #6 on: July 30, 2019, 07:23:23 PM »
Quote from: GeorgiaModerate on July 30, 2019, 07:22:18 PM
Quote from: bilaps on July 30, 2019, 07:21:22 PM
Are these people all insane? How you can win at a democratic primary with these messages?

Let's face it, none of those who spoke so far are going to win the primary.

True insofar as Marianne did not speak but rather projected her consciousness via television.
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AMB1996
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,515
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Political Matrix
E: 2.06, S: 5.74
« Reply #7 on: July 30, 2019, 07:24:43 PM »
Quote from: Reluctant Republican on July 30, 2019, 07:22:49 PM
The audience is being surprisingly well mannered.

They must be policing the crowd. (Has anyone seen Kamala?) I heard someone clap for Warren and then immediately stop.
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Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,515
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Political Matrix
E: 2.06, S: 5.74
« Reply #8 on: July 30, 2019, 07:26:35 PM »
Quote from: Pittsburgh For Kamala on July 30, 2019, 07:25:29 PM
That jab at Williamson by Warren was in pretty poor taste.

She knows Marianne is the front-runner and is desperate to take some of her support away.
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AMB1996
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,515
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Political Matrix
E: 2.06, S: 5.74
« Reply #9 on: July 30, 2019, 07:29:00 PM »
Elizabeth Warren is an expert on Republican talking points since she is one.
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AMB1996
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,515
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Political Matrix
E: 2.06, S: 5.74
« Reply #10 on: July 30, 2019, 07:42:14 PM »
Bernie says healthcare corporations are charging high prices because they spend so much on lobbying... implying that if he stopped pushing against them they would charge less.

[thonk]
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AMB1996
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,515
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Political Matrix
E: 2.06, S: 5.74
« Reply #11 on: July 30, 2019, 07:43:19 PM »
He wrote the damn bill, Tim.
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AMB1996
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,515
United States


Political Matrix
E: 2.06, S: 5.74
« Reply #12 on: July 30, 2019, 07:57:39 PM »
« Edited: July 30, 2019, 08:02:46 PM by RoboWop »
Quote from: Niijima-Harris on July 30, 2019, 07:54:54 PM
Quote from: MAGugh on July 30, 2019, 07:53:19 PM
Governor Bullock is doing well for his first-ever Presidential primary debate.
He's the only on the stage that has ever been in a competitive race.

Bernie has been in a lot of competitive races... as the third party spoiler.

Also Warren, obviously. And O'Rourke, obviously. And Hickenlooper (twice). And Delaney. And Klobuchar (for Hennepin County Attorney).

What the hell are you talking about, actually?
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AMB1996
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,515
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Political Matrix
E: 2.06, S: 5.74
« Reply #13 on: July 30, 2019, 08:11:58 PM »
The only impactful moment of the debate so far is "I wrote the damn bill."
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AMB1996
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,515
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Political Matrix
E: 2.06, S: 5.74
« Reply #14 on: July 30, 2019, 08:14:40 PM »
Quote from: Secular Green on July 30, 2019, 08:14:09 PM
Sanders is doing a good job of countering the points by the moderate candidates.

To be fair, I don't think they're making very strong points in the first place.
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AMB1996
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,515
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Political Matrix
E: 2.06, S: 5.74
« Reply #15 on: July 30, 2019, 08:15:08 PM »
O'Rourke with the "I'm from Texas" pitch.
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AMB1996
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,515
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Political Matrix
E: 2.06, S: 5.74
« Reply #16 on: July 30, 2019, 08:43:21 PM »
Marianne is the only candidate who is consistently moving.
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AMB1996
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,515
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Political Matrix
E: 2.06, S: 5.74
« Reply #17 on: July 30, 2019, 08:44:54 PM »
Quote from: Grassr00ts on July 30, 2019, 08:42:25 PM
What the hell is “environmental racism”? I didn’t even pay attention to the other things she called racist because I was too busy trying to piece together that one statement.

Basically refers to the way that compounding incidents of racism create environments where blacks or other races are less able to survive/succeed. Redlining is a good example.
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AMB1996
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,515
United States


Political Matrix
E: 2.06, S: 5.74
« Reply #18 on: July 30, 2019, 08:45:27 PM »
Someone just screamed at the mention of Sheila Jackson Lee's name. Maybe one of her (many) former staffers is in attendance.
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AMB1996
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,515
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Political Matrix
E: 2.06, S: 5.74
« Reply #19 on: July 30, 2019, 08:47:29 PM »
40 👏🏿 ACRES 👏🏿 AND 👏🏿 AN 👏🏿 ORB
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AMB1996
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,515
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Political Matrix
E: 2.06, S: 5.74
« Reply #20 on: July 30, 2019, 08:48:49 PM »
Given the demographics of CNN viewership, I actually thought that trailer for "The Hunt" was real.
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AMB1996
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,515
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Political Matrix
E: 2.06, S: 5.74
« Reply #21 on: July 30, 2019, 09:03:58 PM »
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AMB1996
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,515
United States


Political Matrix
E: 2.06, S: 5.74
« Reply #22 on: July 30, 2019, 09:17:57 PM »
Quote from: Storr on July 30, 2019, 09:17:07 PM
Tim Ryan just said "Nicaragua, Guatemala, and El Salvador" in reference to the Golden Triangle countries when the Golden Triangle countries are Guatemala, Honduras, and El Salvador.

The Taliban made him say this.
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Senator Incitatus
AMB1996
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 6,515
United States


Political Matrix
E: 2.06, S: 5.74
« Reply #23 on: July 30, 2019, 09:18:20 PM »
Quote from: Dr. RI on July 30, 2019, 09:17:43 PM
Quote from: Perot ‘92. on July 30, 2019, 09:15:44 PM
Best line of the night came from Warren IMO. "Why would you take all of this time running for President to only say what we can't do" was a brilliant response.

It's a good soundbite, but it's an inane argument. People are tired to politicians who promise the world and don't deliver anything.

I actually don't think this is true. Look who's President. People want big, bold ideas.
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AMB1996
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,515
United States


Political Matrix
E: 2.06, S: 5.74
« Reply #24 on: July 30, 2019, 09:34:23 PM »
LOVE EACH OTHER 2020

MARIANNE WILLIAMSON
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