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  Would you support a Generous Dole? (search mode)
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Question: Would you support a Generous Dole and Why?
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opebo
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« on: February 14, 2010, 11:58:54 AM »

Let us say by generous we mean in the $1,200-1,500/month range, made up of a combination of rent-subsidy, 'food stamps', and a some cash.
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opebo
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« Reply #1 on: February 14, 2010, 12:06:13 PM »

Absolutely.

Would you support my idea from a few years ago where citizens are given vouchers of about $200-300 each year to use at strip clubs and those who don't use them are arrested for being prudes? I suppose they can be used at legal brothels as well.

Well, I wasn't being facetious, if that's what you're implying.  But its a fun thought.
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opebo
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« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2010, 02:21:29 PM »

Let us say by generous we mean in the $1,200-1,500/month range, made up of a combination of rent-subsidy, 'food stamps', and a some cash.

where did you get the 1,200-1,500 number from?

Personal sensibility - it is about what I live on in terms of ordinary expenses.  (of course I would need that per week to live this well in the USA).
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opebo
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« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2010, 05:19:51 PM »

No, not the way opebo means it for certain - unemployment checks to help you from collapsing financially while you look for a new job are one thing, but "free money" that you can get without any requirements or expiration date is an absurd idea that is completely ignorant of basic reality.

No.  Providing precisely that to owners is the basis of our entire social structure, Dibble.
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opebo
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« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2010, 05:52:57 AM »

no. and honestly that is dumb idea that will only hurt productivity and innovation in the long run, and cause a brain drain. we need to encourage people to work.

     More or less. I don't see anything that I could consider positive that could come out of this proposal in the long-term.

Higher wages, for one, Piti. 

The way you encourage people to work, guys, is through the threat of killing them.  As long as you're OK with that, and consider that an appealing society, that's fine.  But please have the good grace and awareness to admit it is slavery.
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opebo
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« Reply #5 on: February 24, 2010, 02:52:40 PM »

Your mistake is assuming that employers would be able to pay the wages you would consider acceptable.

Your mistake is you don't understand that the employers are merely clients of the State.
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