Is premarital sex immoral?

[HillGoose]

No lmfao

[HillGoose]

Obviously and we must remake this the foundation of America. There is no principle more important. If this is not immoral, then virtually nothing is.

I would be strongly open to instituting criminal penalties against cohabitation. This is one of the biggest reasons for my opposition to Rick Scott in the Senate race.

dude that's hilarious, the cops breaking down your door because you're sleeping with someone is real "small goverment" lmfao

[HillGoose]

Obviously and we must remake this the foundation of America. There is no principle more important. If this is not immoral, then virtually nothing is.

I would be strongly open to instituting criminal penalties against cohabitation. This is one of the biggest reasons for my opposition to Rick Scott in the Senate race.

dude that's hilarious, the cops breaking down your door because you're sleeping with someone is real "small goverment" lmfao

I am the biggest or one of the biggest opponents of small government on Earth. Theocratic autocracy must finally reach out shores.

like the Taliban?

[HillGoose]

Obviously and we must remake this the foundation of America. There is no principle more important. If this is not immoral, then virtually nothing is.

I would be strongly open to instituting criminal penalties against cohabitation. This is one of the biggest reasons for my opposition to Rick Scott in the Senate race.

dude that's hilarious, the cops breaking down your door because you're sleeping with someone is real "small goverment" lmfao

I am the biggest or one of the biggest opponents of small government on Earth. Theocratic autocracy must finally reach out shores.

like the Taliban?

The Taliban wishes it had as many immorality bans as my ideal Nation.

damn brah that's hard as hell. not my cup of tea, but that's like, some serious ambition.

would your ideal nation also execute people for jaywalking?

[HillGoose]

Even if you think premarital sex is immoral it's none of your business to tell consenting adults what they can and can't do in the bedroom. If you think premarital sex is immoral, just don't do it lmao. Leave the rest of us alone.

Individual autonomy ftw, big government is pure evil.

[HillGoose]

It's hilarious because even if someone thinks premarital sex is immoral and gains enough power to try to outlaw it, they won't be able to enforce it without some Sovet style totalitarianism (and brainwashing) on steroids.

I'd guess at least 95% of the US population has had sex before marriage. It's a very small minority that hasn't.

[HillGoose]

Psst...

There is no "meaning" or morality to acting on an instinctive, hormonally traceable urge and attempting to procreate your genes.

*hops out window*

I, err, wouldn't dwell on this argument for too long. One of the best things about human civilisation is the taming of the selfish gene. Although we are by nature a polygamous species, most societies have independently arrived on monogamy as a good rule of order - it's one of those artificial societal constructs that seem to be pretty adequate. Society would not change for the better if we obeyed our hormonal whims.

That said, there are lots of very very good reasons to fall back from treating premarital sex as immoral. Not least because almost all cultures have a significant double standard on what gender gets away with such shenanigans. Tbh a lot of neo-traditionalist sentiment strikes me as tryhard edginess, especially if people try and claim it's not for religious reasons.

uhhh, I don't think humans are naturally polygamous. Humans are naturally jealous which means polygamy is like, in direct opposition to human nature.

i literally know a total of 0 people who seem to have any sort of polygamous desire. that's like, a weird ass hippie thing.

[HillGoose]

I bet most of the people voting "Yes" are hypocrites lmao

[HillGoose]

Psst...

There is no "meaning" or morality to acting on an instinctive, hormonally traceable urge and attempting to procreate your genes.

*hops out window*

I, err, wouldn't dwell on this argument for too long. One of the best things about human civilisation is the taming of the selfish gene. Although we are by nature a polygamous species, most societies have independently arrived on monogamy as a good rule of order - it's one of those artificial societal constructs that seem to be pretty adequate. Society would not change for the better if we obeyed our hormonal whims.

That said, there are lots of very very good reasons to fall back from treating premarital sex as immoral. Not least because almost all cultures have a significant double standard on what gender gets away with such shenanigans. Tbh a lot of neo-traditionalist sentiment strikes me as tryhard edginess, especially if people try and claim it's not for religious reasons.

uhhh, I don't think humans are naturally polygamous. Humans are naturally jealous which means polygamy is like, in direct opposition to human nature.

i literally know a total of 0 people who seem to have any sort of polygamous desire. that's like, a weird ass hippie thing.

We are descended from a species that practiced habitual polygamy. The rule of thumb is that if an animal has significant differences between the size of males and females, the species is more likely a polygamous one (and even "monogamous" species like most birds display habits like cheating and even prostitution). In humanity's case, it's normally speculated that early Homo species formed harems, where a single male would jealously guard his brood from rivals, much like gorillas or elephant seals; often killing off any infants produced from other males. (Contrasting with our closer ape cousins, who tend to engage in more of a free for all, which is why chimps have much larger testicles relative to their penises than humans or gorillas). The harem structure is less conducive to the functioning of society, which is why the practice has become less and less common (although it has persistently been practiced across human civilisation, especially amongst wealthy men).

so basically a bunch of warlords raped everybody back in the olden days?

I mean that makes sense but also that's not polygamy that's just like, tyranny.