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HillGoose
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« on: November 20, 2017, 10:02:19 AM »

wrong, Rubio or another neocon would have won like you would never have seen.

Republicans need to go back to 2004 if we're going to win anything.
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HillGoose
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« Reply #1 on: November 21, 2017, 10:47:00 PM »

I feel like this description is still too generous.

This.

Makes me laugh that people actually think Hillary would've lost to the others


Kasich would have landslided Hillary , and Rubio would have beaten her as well

Rubio/Cruz aren't that different besides some superficial traits. All of those traits would be attacked.

He doesn't have any actual moderating policies of note when you look beyond the superficialities.
His policies for the most part are the same as Cruz, so electorally he'd functionally end up as equivalent to Cruz following the facade breaking down.

Rubio supports Immigration Reform , Cruz does not


Rubio also didnt propose a flat tax like cruz did

Rubio wanted 0% tax rates on capital gains/dividends. So basically you're saying immigration? Bill Clinton easily won hispanics while campaigning against illegal immigration in the 90s. It's not a left/right issue.


W Bush also supported eliminating tax rates on dividends : http://www.nytimes.com/2003/01/06/us/bush-budget-plan-would-eliminate-tax-on-dividends.html

Marco Rubio is George W Bush 2.0 not Ted Cruz 2.0

That's even worse.

I want George W. Bush 2.0 so bad, 0% capital gains tax makes my eyes water with happiness.
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HillGoose
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« Reply #2 on: November 21, 2017, 11:00:47 PM »

I, too, long for two unsustainable wars, one of which was launched under false pretenses, both adding trillions of dollars to the debt, eroding public confidence in institutions, resulting in thousands of deaths to soldiers and hundreds of thousands of civilian casualties and eroding confidence in American hegemony, while also adding trillions to the debt via tax cuts for the already well-to-do and prescription drug giveways, all the while eroding civil liberties.

W was great.

Americans don't realize we are at war with those who want to destroy us. Don't let the liberal media tell you Saddam didn't have WMDs that he would funnel to Al-Qaeda. Listen to Georges Sada and Hannity.

Darryl Worley- Have You Forgotten?

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HillGoose
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« Reply #3 on: November 22, 2017, 12:21:18 AM »

Americans don't realize we are at war with those who want to destroy us. Don't let the liberal media tell you Saddam didn't have WMDs that he would funnel to Al-Qaeda. Listen to Georges Sada and Hannity.

Darryl Worley- Have You Forgotten?

What's the point of this charade? If you're going to play a character on the internet, at least choose one based off a more prescient archetype, i.e. not some neocon weirdo from the early noughties.


it's not a character though, it's who I am. I legitimately believe these things. It's hard for internet people to understand.
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HillGoose
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« Reply #4 on: November 29, 2017, 03:04:23 AM »

I absolutely hate the man who incentivized schools to become prisons, started a surveillance program, and invaded a country that had nothing to do with 9/11 far more than I hate a Senator who opposes one of those things and wasn't involved in the other two.
Bill Clinton easily won hispanics while campaigning against illegal immigration in the 90s. It's not a left/right issue.
Dole was far more hostile to immigration than Clinton was.

How did Bush incentivize schools to become prisons?

Also, the surveillance programs are necessary, and don't let the liberal media make you think that Saddam didn't have WMDs that he would funnel to Al-Qaeda, or strike the East coast himself. Look up Iraqi general Georges Sada, it's clear that Assad has Saddam's weapons now. That's why Syria needs a pro-American government.
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