GOP FAIL: Farm/Welfare "reform" bill fails in house due to dems/freedom caucus

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Can a Democrat explain to me why a work requirement to use social services isn’t just common sense. If you were personally paying a homeless person to eat wouldn’t you want that person to make an effort to get out of their situation before writing a blank check? That just seems obvious to me. I’m not talking about cutting benefits (indeed I would be fine with reinvesting the savings from a work requirement back into social programs) but it is insane to me that one of the major parties opposes having any incentive to not be homeless.

The farm bill failing is also sad, could someone explain to me why Dems oppose that as well? I really don’t get Dem opposition to this at all. Couldn’t give less of a sh**t what the Freedom Caucus thinks.

Cheap labor is drying up...so you Republicans are trying to increase the labor supply by making all kinds of rules and regulations that whips people into working so business can keep wages low.

People have a right to eat.  You do not, nor does the government, have the right to peoples labor or time.  People don’t work for plenty of reasons and like a parent feeding a 17yo physically capable child as per the law...society has to feed the vagrants and everyone else.  And we should do so with a smile.

No, Snowguy, people DON'T have the right to eat.  That's a fact, not a political position.

"For even when we were with you, this we commanded you: that if any would not work, neither should he eat."  (2 Thessalonians 3:10)  That's a verse straight out of Scripture.  Now it's in a particular context; the context of Paul telling folks who stopped working their Earthly occupations on the basis that Jesus would be returning any second now that they needed to work as they were able and provide what they could so as not to be a drain on the rest of the Christian community (which, in the first century, was quite an interdependent community).  But God (through his Apostle Paul) voiced His judgment that people who can work ought to.  It's not the only place in Scripture that this sentiment is expressed.

God commands us to be charitable.  Almsgiving is Biblical.  And I think that, as a matter of public policy, our government SHOULD have a safety net that includes SNAP.  But it's not a RIGHT, and the idea that able-bodied persons who are able to work, but would refuse to do so in exchange for public aid is, quite frankly, flat-out wrong.  There are people in our society who are, to be blunt, just plain lazy.  I don't wish for them to starve to death, but requiring them to seek employment or perform some sort of public service work is really, truly, OK to require.  Yes, I know about the evils of corporate welfare, but that really is a separate conversation.

Are you seriously going nuclear here and quoting such a nonsensical book in attempt to make a point?